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Jim Steveson,  Vader WA

We will see a significant drop in hunting if the wolves are introduced as they will take a big BITE out of the young crops of our wildlife

Rick ,  Centralia WA

We would like landowner preference tags for wolves, as soon as they are allowed. We encourage hunting on our private, as well as neighboring state land.

John P Nordheim,  Waitsburg WA

Hunters should not rule the management of wolves

Lisa Dabek,  Seattle WA

Wolves aren't compromising recreational hunting. Hunting advocates should be disregarded in their complaints about Elk and other surplus populations.


hunting should be the end result of delisting/recovery.


Hunting is probably the most cost effective means of managing a healthy wolf population. At the hunter's expense, the state is provided access to information about a wolf, its health, its location, and often certain volunteer hours with wolf-related projects. The document has not adequately stressed these critical scientific and fiscal benefits and instead stresses reduction of illegal hunting. However, only scenarios probable to lead to an increase in illegal hunting are provided... including fewer game species, non-farm defense of property or pets, etc.

David Willson,  North Bend WA

Hunting is an important aspect of the economy in some rural areas, but not the only reason we maintain ecosystems and game animals. Wolves belong in the ecosystem and we have to find a way to allow them to live and still maintain hunting. This may involve the removal of the wolves in some areas-preferably by moving them.

Ray DePuydt,  Kettle Falls WA

WDWF will lose money if wolves dominate our forests. There will be significant loss of hunters. There will be little large game to hunt. Wolves have no way of providing economic benefit to our state. They are elusive and rarely seen in the wild. "Whale watchers" bring money to our state. There are no "wolf watchers". Wolves will only cost millions in studying and managing.

Kirk Alexander,  Seattle WA

No hunting should be allowed until at least 5 years after the goal of wild wolves is met.

Kaitlin Krhounek,  Seattle WA

If we are going to have wolves, which it appears we will. We MUST manage their numbers with a hunting season. Anyone that has a dog knows that dogs give birth to packs...not just singles annually. If we don't manage their numbers it will get out of controll.

Johnny Rebel,  East Wenatchee WA

3.8% of the state's population identifies as hunters and this is when we include minors? This is a pitiful number that should hardly be audible within this debate. For such a small minority they cause a rather large impact on the reduction of ungulate populations and I would rather permity population control at the hands of nature and the bite of wolves, rather than the largely unnecessary violence of man.

Sean V Owen,  Seattle WA

Wolves Should not be hunted.

Tristan Higgins,  Seattle WA

Hunters will not pay to hunt in this state if current ungulates populations are not maintained.


Healthy wolves = healthy ungulates= healthy hunting opoortunities.


Hunters kill elk and deer in too large numbers and do not target sick and elderly elk and deer which harms herds. Healthy and sustainable wolf packs will benefit the environment and ecosystem.

Joe Sheeran,  Ellensburg WA

If wolves keep populating at current levels hunting will be illiminated

Ross MacArthur,  Cusick WA

They need to be hunted like anyother game species. It has be written in scientific journals by experts in wolf ecology that unless 70 percent of the population is harvested annually, the overall population will still increase. Wolves are prolific breeders and it's not limited to just the Alpha pair either, as you saw in the Methow this last summer.

Ty Brown,  Naches WA

Manipulated information that is misleading, a sales pitch for wolves.

dale denney,  colville WA

Yes I believe in hunting them, because it can take the other herds down.What else will control them?

Gerald W Guhlke,  Reardan WA

We have hunters that come and add revenue to the ranch and local economy but if the population of deer and elk decreases the county and our ranch will lose income.

AnonymousClarkston WA

Will hunters still be willing to pay for a hunting license once deer and elk numbers get lower and lower? As a hunter I don't see people buying hunting licenses if there are now deer and elk to shoot.

Jay Renwick,  Ellensburg WA

Hunting any of our large carnivores is no longer necessary. They are needed to maintain ungulate herds, land conservation,etc. Hunting should be done only with a camera lens.


Wolf tags should be made available at first option to satisfy the blood lust

James Maves,  Pomeroy WA

The lethal kill allowance for ranchers whose lifestock is attacked by wolves is too liberal.The wolves,in the early stages of population reestablishment,need more protection.

Jocelyn Eke,  Los Angeles CA

Introducing wolves and allowing wolves will make the wildlife much stronger.

Diane Sonntag,  Tenino WA

inadequate consideration was given to the use of hunters as a management tool.

Kenneth G Matney,  Ellensburg WA

I am not a hunter but I tolerate excessive ungulate populations and the way hunting seasons mess up my autumn hiking. I also tolerate, barely, the introduction of turkeys and their possible effects on other species such as grouse, mollusks, and who knows what else. CONSIDERING THAT, I THINK IT IS VERY REASONABLE FOR THE HUNTERS TO TOLERATE WOLVES. THAT IS JUST PART OF THE DEAL.

Matt Dahlgreen,  Wenatchee WA

hunting should be a managment tool as soon as possible. Public sentiment will largely determine the success of wolf recovery, allowing hunting may help maintain public support.

Stephanie George,  Newport WA

They should be hunted year around

Duane Bernard,  Rainier OR

hunting alone will not be able to control wolf populations by the time you get your so called desired number of breeding pairs.

Gary Nielsen,  Colville WA

if you let the wolves in then open it up for hunting to controol them

gary Ryan,  sekiu WA

Livestock producers should be compensated for livestock that die or are injured by people who shoot livestock grazing on public land. There are probably a couple of these types of impacts to livestock in our area every year.

Jennifer Molesworth,  Twisp WA

It seems to be that the West side of the state has all the voting power and has messed up hunting for all of us. I don't think the West side should be allowed to hunt on the East side of Washington. It is my opionion they don't respect the animals they are hunting, and don't vote on bills that will help the animals. I think the West side should have to buy an out of state license to hunt in Eastern Washington. How can we make that happen?

Aaron Neer,  Kennewick WA

I believe that your analysis of what is happening to the Northern Yellowstone herd is inaccurate. Your "study" notes that the significant decline was caused by anterless hunting. This antlerless hunt has been suspended for several years, with all other hunting significantly reduced, and still the herd has plummeted to the point where a hunt of any kind is no longer supported, and I believe a report has recently emerged finally identifying wolves as the real reason of the decline.


would you want to destry the wildlife as is being done in Idaho and Montanawhy


Wolves will take all surplus wildlife populations of deer and elk so nothing will be left to allow hunters to take. Little populations to hunt and no hunter success and there will be no hunter.

Wayne Vinyard,  Glenwood WA

same regulations as coyotes.

Daniel Gitchell,  Mc Cleary WA

I disagree that wolves have had little affect on hunter harvest across much of neighboring states. Additionally the DEIS ignores the differences between game managment in Washington and other Rocky Mountain States. Washington, with a much higher population, has higher numbers of hunters on an area basis. Hunting competion and pressure is already at a maximum in many areas with many people getting to the point of dropping out of the sport. Further decreases in hunter opportunity can only have negative effects on hunter satisfaction and state revenues.

Nathan Putnam,  Glenwood WA

If Wolves are coming back they need to be hunted from the start. When not hunted, they are so much more bold and they act differently when they do not have the hunting pressure. Look at the cats that used to be hunted by dogs. the Cougar still thrived but to survive they had to stay further away from people and livestock. Now they are literally in our backyards threatening our kids and pets. We need to keep the pressure on the wolves from the beginning. do not let them form their bad behavior and then brake it later. it is called train them to do what you want them to do or else.

Don Reeves,  wenatchee WA

What constitutes 'opportunity to hunt' versus "Harvest"? When the draft states that there has been no "significant reduction in opportunity" for hunters in neighboring states I would disagree... certainly the season hasn't changed, so in that regard yes the opportunity to hunt is still there... but the "opportunity" to harvest has certainly been reduced, especially elk in both Idaho and Montana. I don't want more hunting opportunities, I hunt all over North America... what I want is more "harvest" opportunities. This past year I saw only 5 bucks that I thought were shooters in this state and ultimately I passed on all of them... none of them were 150 class bucks and I can get a better buck in Eastern Montana.

Al Schultz,  Port Orchard WA

I have several friends that live in states where hunting is allowed on a limited basis. They tell me the wolves are a very tough animal and that they have shot as many as 10 of them before they killed one????


See 4.1.3 above.

Ronald Riedasch,  Anacortes WA

Wolves tend to take the smallest and weakest individuals in a herd; human hunters seek out the largest and strongest. The presence of wolves will strengthen the overall fitness of the ungulate herds. All of the alternatives have escape clauses in the case of threatened ungulate populations.

Jana Hobbs,  Kirkland WA

Will have a very negative impact on a natural resource that is already poorely managed.

Robert E Daharsh,  Woodinville WA

Wolves have a minimal impact on hunting success here in the Midwest.

James R Salkas,  Oak Lawn IL

Hunting should be listed as a control mechanism from the outset. If not the WDFW will not be able to react fast enough to the explosion that will most likely happen.

Charles Olney,  Yakima WA

I believe that if wolves are ever hunted, it should only be under the following conditions: 1. after they are delisted in the state, 2. only if the treaty tribes approve of it, 3. only if the state charges a prodigous amount of money for each hunt, 4. and only if most of the money collected goes back to helping habitat restoration for the other species that are interconnected with wolves and upon which they depend, elk, salmon, and big horn for example.

David Moen,  Oregon City OR

We need to hunt them to control the packs if not there will be to many for resources

scott fowler,  burlington WA

Theres enough hunters in washington too many people now wolves!!?

dylan peterson,  federal way WA

these are the people who bring in the money,both to the state and locally

bruce oergel,  ellensburg WA

Let there be a wolf season.

Hans Hurlbutt,  Sedro Woolley WA



Kill the Wolves, save the other game animals!

Robert Mears,  Mead WA



Hunters should be allowed to shoot them just like we do coyotes and other problem animals.


Hunters are used to successfully manage big-game animals and would be as effective on managing large predators as well.

Mark Olis,  

see earlier comments.

Scott Nicolai,  Ellensburg WA

See above. As a hunter, I already feel game animals have all of the pressure they can stand including extended hunting seasons and loss of habitat.

James D King,  Omak WA

Will need A season to keep them in small packs to not overwhelm other game.

Tom Freeman,  Tonasket WA

If the population exceeds the breeding goal, the wolves should be hunted for the sake of the rancher and the wolf.

Lynn White,  Seatac WA

Hunt them on a permit basis.


Hunting is a great tool to manage wildlife and it should be used.

Charles Oueis,  Spokane WA

This plan will reduce deer and elk in the state causing a drop off in moneys to the game department account less hunters.


I am not in favor of an Idaho style open season on wolves until I am adequately convinced that the population in the state has reached a healthy level.

Ryan Alexander Sparks,  Pullman WA

The hunting of wolves will only increase the probability of creating a problematic situation. If the dominate animals are shot their pups won't be taught the proper prey or the lone mate will start taking less challenging prey.

Bill Liggett,  Eatonville WA

kill every damn wolf in washington idaho and montana. its devastating the elk and deer populations already in tremendous amounts. hunters keep the populations of elk and deer at a good rate anyhow theres no need in destroy all of the deer and elk. soon there wont be any. i hate this state and its government. i hate washington state


Hunting? What hunting? The only ones that will be hunting will be the wolves, they will take far more animals than licensed hunters and poachers. might as well just close hunting all together for the sportsman.


However, lethal wolf control in many of 12 these areas to reduce conflicts with livestock may keep local wolf densities low enough to minimize 13 impacts on elk herds. Recently, Montana Fish, Wildlife & Parks has reduced hunting limits for 14 antlerless elk in the northern Yellowstone herd, which has undergone a substantial decline since the 15 mid-1990s due to a large past antlerless harvest, drought, and predation by wolves. This does not support your idea for alternative 1. Very contradicting data. THere is not many wolves in Washington how can you state they will be the same?

Jim Rubert,  Puyallup WA

Tags should be made available so our elk and deer populations can be sustained.

Raymond Borbon,  Kirkland WA

The present program of game management will COLLAPSE if hunting licenses and tags continue to fall because big game becomes more scarce.

Jay Arment,  Spokane WA

Wolves will help keep our deer population from exploding.

Kevin O'Halloran,  Seattle WA

I just returned from a hunting trip in Western Montana (which I have been going to for the past 10 years when drawn) The impact on the local Deer and Elk population from Wolf predidation was tremendous and obvious. The population was way down and the hunters returns at the game checks reflect this. Although I never saw any Wolves I did see plenty of sign in the wild and had many conversations with locals and heard many stories about wolf pack sightings and wolf kills. I would say you better give deep consideration to introducing something into a part of this state that already has a shrinking population of big game animals!

Todd Moulton,  Cosmopolis WA

Our hunting sucks at best now, and your big game management is the worst in all the states

Joe Headley,  Yakima WA

I think we need more successful breeding pairs before we allow all out wolf hunting. I would hope that when we do start to advertise wolf hunting in washington we start very, very modestly until we can see the effects. Again, your plan seems to indicate that communities will reap more "eco-dollars" from wolves than hunting dollars. Focus on that!

Marcia avajas,  Bainbridge Island WA

Being a hunter I hate to see anything else get their food before me, but since most of the animals are over-hunted to start with, I think that introducing wolves will actually lead to a positive change in the way that WDFW actually manages game populations by throwing a wrench into the system.

Karl Schulke,  Republic WA

With the current 15 pairs for delisting the Elk and deer populations will be reduced to levels hunting will be curtailed in some GMU's. The Montana Director of FWP in his November 2009 letter to a magazine stated that elk numbers were reduced by wolves nearly 20 percent in some areas. Those type numbers will eliminate elk hunting and could jepordize elk populatons if a harsh winter occurred at the same time. Especially since wolves will likely key in on one or more of our nine winter feeding areas.

Lee Davis,  Ellensburg WA

Wolf season should be the same as coyote.

Jim Lamb,  Spokane WA

More Wolves would put more people at risk partaking in this activity.

Kenneth Nilson,  Silverdale WA

I strongly oppose any effort to re-classify wolves as a game species.

Steve Eichelberger,  Tacoma WA

Reintroducing wolves will have minimal effect on hunting. More deer are killed by vehicles than hunters now.

Jack Hirsch,  bellevue WA

Fat lazy hunters waste more deer because of their lack of tracking skills, motivation than wolves would ever kill

Roger Wallace,  Leavenworth WA

15 breeding pairs will devistate our states population of deer, elk, and moose to the point that hunting will no longer be allowed

Warren D Gimlin,  East Wenatchee WA

Wolf hunting is a very intriguing, kind of mystic, and could bring in considerable revenue for the state


hunting wolves is not a productive way of managing wolf population, it is very inconsistant method of hunting.


I've been hunting the Northeast Cascades, Twisp, Winthrop & Loomis, for Mule deer for 15 years now and have seen the quality of hunting deteriorate to a level that is causing me to consider giving up the whole thing altogether. I spend hundreds and even thousands of dollars annually to hunt in this state and for what? A rifle season that happens when Mule deer are perfectly content living in their summer/fall habitat which happens to be miles and miles into the back country in a National Park that prohibits hunting. Now the Dept of Fish & Wildlife is bowing down to the special interest groups who are armed with boatloads of money to introduce a ruthless predator that will further erode the hunting opportunities and odds for success that this and many other outdoorsmen already see as dismal. Wolves in Washington may be a romantic idea in some radical animal rights groups world view but wildlife in this state already suffers from low numbers, high winter kills, habitat encroachment and in my view mismanagement, not to mention the ridiculous notion that wildlife management should be performed through the ballot box and initiative process by overly emotional, uneducated morons living in Wallingford and Capital Hill who don't have a lick of Wildlife Biology education. For a state that is billions and billions in debt due to incompetency and fiscal mismanagement of public funds on ideological programs, the last thing we need is to further cut into the positive (but dwindling) revenue stream that hunting provides to the state. Wolf reintroduction will cost millions to administer, eliminate money to the economy in the form of gas, food, lodging, clothing, accessories and the list goes on and on ,and will provide only a hand full of people (in the grand scheme of things) a warm fuzzy feeling that somehow we have done something good for the environment, wildlife and society as a whole. Before we reintroduce wolves to everyplace they ever roamed just shy of the Seattle, Chicago, New York and Denver city limits, why doesn't the WDFW and our state government watch the fallout of wolf reintroduction in Yellowstone National Park and how those animals have proliferated areas outside the park into Montana, Idaho, Northeast Washington etc. In closing I think it's a bad idea and to say that these wolves are somehow "endangered" is laughable. There are thousands & thousands in Canada, Alaska & Minnesota among other places. Sincerely, a very concerned hunter, Jeff Butterworth Maple Valley, WA

Jeff Butterworth,  Maple Valley WA

I am staunchly opposed to hunting expansion.


I support proactive nonlethal tools and methods to reduce conflicts between wolves and livestock. I am not in favor of hunting or culling Wolves by lethal means.

elizabeth archambault,  Seattle WA

Don't EVER allow hunters here to hunt wolves like in Montana

Elizabeth Enger,  Greenwater WA

Good summary. It addresses LEGAL hunting and I wonder if there is any way of addressing the Illegal hunting toll on Wolves.

Lois Neuman,  Vancouver WA

As a member online of the League of Women Voters and also having a sister who is a chairperson of the League of Women Voters in Virginia who works parttime for a Senator who support the conservation of God's breathing creations, not for man's purpose, but for His.

MB ,   FL

no kill wolves

Gary Hemenway,  Hoquiam WA

I have been hunting since opening day abd have seen no Bucks in Stormking area. Only heard 4 rifle shots in 4 days. The muzzle loaders have scared them into the brush for the modern firearm hunters. Consider a any deer harvest in that area. Also why don't we transfer mule deer into western Washington and the elk rut is in Oct. Why not change the elk hunting times so we can hunt elk during the rut ? Can we get the hunting pamphlets out on the streets by the end of February so hunters can consider what areas they want to hunt and put in for special permits for certain areas and have a projected amount of permits that will be issued for each area in the upcoming season.

Rick Felty,  Lakewood WA

I was raised on wild game. In fact, I was 9 before tasting beef. There are not enough big game left. The only hunting that will remain, as a Revenue Generating hunt will be for the Wolf. All other game is being extinguished.

Teresa Selby,  Bonney Lake WA

this is more of a question then a comment. i dont understand why, the archery elk hunting season keeps being moved forward. here on the west side of the state. the season has been moved so far forward into sept. that we almost miss the rut. meanwhile muzzleloaders have the tail end of the rut, and there are special rifle permits on any bull during the entireity of the rut. it seems to me that if the state is trying to limit the amount of elk taken, there are many other meathods of helping the elk heards rather then taking away the season for the least successful archery hunters. i would like to see the rut rifle permits in the goat rocks wilderness taken away. these bulls supply this and the surrounding areas with the mature breeding bulls. as a result of this hunt, the mature bulls are not breeding, leaving inferior bulls to do the mating, and because of when these bulls are being taken the lesser bulls only have half of the rut to breed. and on the east side the current rules are killing all the cows, the cows give birth to the bulls that cant be hunted, unless its a spike. stop shooting cows, go to three point or better and you will see the population grow. i believe our state could have three times the elk population if we managed it differently. and this amount of elk could support the rising cougar, and bear, and now wolf, and im sure in the future, grizzly populations. and we could all have good hunting seasons.

dallas logan,  tacoma WA

Should still have trophy animals around.


They have dramatically upset the elk hunting landscape in Idaho in two areas we hunted. Locals are incensed.

Mark D Smith,  Battle Ground WA

None should be allowed until such time as the wolves have been completely re-established throughout the state and have become some type of overpopulation problem. That should be many years into the future, if ever at all. If humans would leave them alone, nature would determine the proper balance and ecosystems would adjust. Humans should stay out of the issue. It is clear from our many failed attempts to regulate wildlife that humans should get out of it.

Teresa Fox,  Bremerton WA

You don't even have breeding population and you high priced hunting permits.

Micheal Pacholski,  Toledo OH

hunting will certainly take a nose dive once populations are established I will certainly spend my money in states that will allow me to shoot a wolf


Hunting will suffer and the economic impacts will be vastly greater than estimated. Update your data yearly as new numbers come in from other western states. This is glossed over in the report.

Darcy Mitchem,  Toutle Wa WA

Multiple tags with no mercy.

Larry Zalaznik,  Walla Walla WA

We need management of wolves. With large numbers, hunting is one form of management.

Thomas F McLaughlin,  Spokane WA