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Rule Change Recommendation Short Title
# 64. Anchovy and sardine daily limit and use of cast net gear

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Rules Category
Coastal Region Marine

Type of Rule Change Proposal
Recreational

County or Location Information
Marine Areas 1-4, Willapa Bay and Grays Harbor

Short Description
Fishery for anchovy and sardine (25 pounds in aggregate) taken by dip net, cast net, angling and jigs. Cast net must be in immediate control of the angler. Mesh size limited to 1 inch maximum, no larger than 10 feet in diameter. Angler must have retrieval cord in their hand at all times when the cast net is deployed.

Explanation
Allow recreational fishers to catch their own live bait for use while fishing for tuna offshore. Current rules prohibit the use of a cast net. The effort would be limited to Marine areas 1-4, Willapa Bay and Grays Harbor. Maintain daily limit of 10 pounds for herring and smelt species.

Original Rule Proposal Number(s)
DFW621358

Final Rule Actions

Staff Recommendation
Options as presented.

Commission Action
Adopted as proposed.

Rule Modifications
No


Public Testimony

Comment supported proposal.

Online Public Comments  (96 comments)

KNOBBS, KENNETH D  September 21, 2012
SILVERDALE, WA  
Comments:
I agree with the proposed changes of this rule proposal with the exception of the cast net size. I think a maximum diameter of the cast net should be 14 feet as you will be generally fishing in the open ocean and a smaller net generally would be much less successful. The cast net retrieval cord should have a maximum length of 100 feet. There should be no restrictions related to the hours of the day when cast nets can be used as generally commercial fishing for anchovies is done in lowlight hours of the day and I see no reason to restrict recreational to a different set of rules. Thank you. Kenneth Knobbs.
COATNEY, DON C  September 21, 2012
OAK HARBOR, WA  
Comments:
Not only yes but it should also be for herring inside the puget sound and on the coast. People in the sound also would like to have bait as well.
BERGERON, DAVID A  September 21, 2012
LAKEWOOD, WA  
Comments:
This makes sense. It's about time.
LANIER, KEVIN C  September 21, 2012
BURIEN , WA  
Comments:
I am in total support of this proposed rule change. With the abundance of Anchovies and Sardines in the area it is logical to allow angler to catch their own bait. This rule change will have not negative impacts on thr reasource
THOM, AARON M  September 21, 2012
KENT, WA  
Comments:
I suport this proposal, I think that it would add to the family fishing experence. Thanks for the concideration. Aaron
WARDLOW, DONALD D  September 22, 2012
WOODINVILLE, WA  
Comments:
I like this proposal. There is commercial seining for anchovies. Why not allow a cast net. This is allowed in many other coastal states. We have to pay $50 per 10 pounds for them at WP. I know that some guys would like to catch their own and save a few bucks.
SCHWARTZ, TODD   September 24, 2012
SNOHOMISH, WA  
Comments:
I fully support this change. Currently we are limited to purchase of bait through a very limited number of suppliers or suppliers who can be very inconsistent providers of bait. This will allow us to be more independent and also catch enough bait when fishing out of ports like La Push and Neah Bay that currently don't have bait.
LANTZ, BRADLEY G  September 24, 2012
VAUGHN, WA  
Comments:
Allow the use of cast net gear.
MARTIN, DAVID B  September 24, 2012
FREELAND, WA  
Comments:
I fully support having the ability to use our own cast net to secure our own bait. I support the commissioners in supporting this.
REESE, DAVID M  September 24, 2012
WOODINVILLE, WA  
Comments:
yes
DURBIN, JOSH D  September 24, 2012
BELFAIR, WA  
Comments:
I think this is a great idea for the sport fishermen who are trying to combat the costs of offshore tuna fishing, it would also keep people potentially a day longer in the westport area to fish for bait, which would be good for its local economy.
GARNER, RON G  September 28, 2012
MONROE, WA  
Comments:
Great idea! Please Pass!!!!!!!
LUCE, KEN A  October 01, 2012
OLYMPIA, WA  
Comments:
allow the cast net
LINNEY, LARRY   October 01, 2012
OLYMPIA, WA  
Comments:
I support this proposal.
HIBBARD, KEN L  October 02, 2012
EVERETT, WA  
Comments:
This is a good proposal, I support this change
ZEUTSCHEL, KURT D  October 02, 2012
ISSAQUAH, WA  
Comments:
This is a great idea and would increase recreational angler opportunity with very little impact to the bait fish population. This would also increase opportunity to fish from ports that don't currently have live bait for sale.
PENEV, KAMEN   October 02, 2012
SAMMAMISH, WA  
Comments:
I support this proposal. This will improve the opportunities for recreational anglers and attract them to ports, such as La Push that do not have live bait available to purchase.
BENTON, RICHARD W  October 04, 2012
ISSAQUAH, WA  
Comments:
I agree with the proposal.
STUDZINSKI, TOM   October 05, 2012
MARYSVILLE, WA  
Comments:
#64 Cast net yes-catch your own bait for tuna fishing with a cast net-provides bait for other ports with none available
SAVIDGE, MATT C  October 05, 2012
BREMERTON, WA  
Comments:
yes-catch your own bait for tuna fishing with a cast net-provides bait for other ports with none available
PERKINS, STEVEN L  October 05, 2012
TACOMA, WA  
Comments:
I agree with this proposal. This would allow recreational tuna fishers to catch thier own bait and reduce the necessity of commercial catch for this species.
OWEN, THOMAS A  October 05, 2012
TACOMA, WA  
Comments:
catch your own bait for tuna fishing with a cast net-provides bait for other ports with none available
WILSON, GEOFF   October 05, 2012
ARLINGTON, WA  
Comments:
I agree with this proposal. There are very few places to get live bait and you are limited to what they have on hand. Gives the opportunity to get your own and save what could be over a 50 mile road trip just to get bait. Also may increase business at the smaller harbors that get passed up because of the fact there is no live bait available.
GAUTHIER, CHARLES   October 05, 2012
BREMERTON, WA  
Comments:
this would be good especially for those ports that have no bait available, and would allow fishermen to match the hatch with the same kind of bait the fish are eating that day.
POLLACK, SCOTT A  October 06, 2012
BUCKLEY , WA  
Comments:
I totally support this! Why should I have to pay a commercial business money to have bait for fishing when the same resource is available for me to obtain them based on my ability to locate them. It is currently a monopoly money maker.
ABEL, GREG A  October 07, 2012
BREMERTON, WA  
Comments:
Agreed. Maybe when people start catching their own bait, the bait pens will lower their rediculously high price for bait as they are the only ones who have bait.
YOUNG, SETH A  October 08, 2012
MT VERNON, WA  
Comments:
yes
BUNNIS, SEAN R  October 08, 2012
NINE MILE FALLS, WA  
Comments:
This should be allowed. Recreational boats will catch very few not affecting the fishery much compared to what commercial boats catch.
PELLETIER, RICK   January 28, 2013
EVERETT, WA  
Comments:
catch your own bait for tuna fishing with a cast net-provides bait for other ports with none available
THOMAS, CHRISTOPHER M  November 06, 2012
SHORELINE, WA  
Comments:
I would reccomend approving this change. Also allow cast net use in Puget Sound marine areas 5, 6, 9, & 10, only. Reduce sardine and anchovy limit to 10 pounds inside these listed marine areas.
KEIZER, JOHN A  January 28, 2013
UNIVERSITY PLACE , WA  
Comments:
Cast net yes-catch your own bait for tuna fishing with a cast net-provides bait for other ports with none available
RISSER, JOHN D  November 26, 2012
STANWOOD, WA  
Comments:
I support this.
RISSER, JOHN D  November 26, 2012
STANWOOD, WA  
Comments:
I support this.
LANIER, KEVIN C  November 29, 2012
BURIEN, WA  
Comments:
I strongly support this issue
CARVER2947@MSN.COM, RUSSELL L  November 29, 2012
LAKETAPPS , WA  
Comments:
Please pass rule#64
MCDOWELL, BRIAN   November 30, 2012
BRIER, WA  
Comments:
I support this.
BOBKO, KEN E  December 04, 2012
TACOMA, WA  
Comments:
I agree with the rule proposal.
JONES, PHIL F  December 06, 2012
HOQUIAM, WA  
Comments:
Good idea. It is not limited to tuna fishing offshore. Bottomfish like anchovies too.
COLEMAN, MARK   December 07, 2012
SNOQUALMIE, WA  
Comments:
I think this would be an excellent rule change for many anglers. There are an abundance of these baitfish. Please accept this new rule.
HINZ, JAMES E  December 07, 2012
SEQUIM, WA  
Comments:
Unless there is good reason, why not allow cast netting for bait in puget sound also?
RAMEY, DAVID A  January 28, 2013
LAKE STEVENS, WA  
Comments:
I am in favor of this proposal, live bait is not readily available in all ports. Allowing anglers to catch their own bait will result in increased opportunity for tuna fishing.
ROSS, ROGER G  January 28, 2013
PORT ANGELES, WA  
Comments:
yes-catch your own bait for tuna fishing with a cast net-provides bait for other ports with none available
KROUM, DONOVAN H  December 28, 2012
BELFAIR , WA  
Comments:
My comment is more toward increasing limits on sand dabs. they are small and two hardly makes a meal.
WILSON, MATTHEW L  December 31, 2012
EDMONES, WA  
Comments:
I support this proposal. This will provide another option of tuna fisherman to get bait without having to wait for the bait dock to open and provide access to the abundant schools of anchovy's.
TUCKER, TIMOTHY J  January 17, 2013
PORT TOWNSEND, WA  
Comments:
I am in favor of this proposal. This proposal allows someone to catch their bait in favor of buying live bait. fisherman will continue to use the same bait fish, harvested from the same region, the only difference is in the method used to fill the bait tank. Besides recreational fisheries consumption of anchovy and sardines is the tiniest fraction compared to commercial fisheries. Impact on the biomass should be negligible.
HYDE, MIKE   January 19, 2013
SEATTLE, WA  
Comments:
I support this proposal. Anchovies and sardines exist in high abundance in the coastal areas. The potential sport catch of these species is extremely limited. There does not appear to be any compelling reason to exclude a gear type that can efficiently harvest limited amounts. I regularly jig anchovies with sabuki rigs and although it can be moderately effective, it takes forever to get enough to make it worthwhile. There does not appear to be a likelihood that the use of cast nets in the ocean marine areas would create any resource abuse or enforcement issues.
GAUTHIER, CHARLES   January 19, 2013
BREMERTON, WA  
Comments:
When used, a cast net is in immediate control of angler, why waste the words? This actually might be of some help to offshore anglers
HALE, RICHARD M  January 20, 2013
VANCOUVER, WA  
Comments:
I fully support this change.
PONAS, JOE   January 21, 2013
VANCOUVER, WA  
Comments:
This is an unnecessary regulation change for now and well into the future. These fish are not close to being endangered or overfished nor will they ever be. Limiting the per person catch poundage can actually effect fishing and revenue derived for other species for which this fish are used as bait. Stay focused in areas of regulation changes that actually make a difference in the quality and quantity of fish that are in need of regulation and enhancements of the anglers experience. Since I and all anglers pay your salary and fund your projects this in my/our need and request. There are several proposed regulation change on the current list that make me question why would I purchase a WA angling license now or in the foreseeable future. I know many current anglers feel the same.
GRAHN, MICHAEL   January 28, 2013
MOUNT VERNON, WA  
Comments:
Cast net yes-catch your own bait for tuna fishing with a cast net-provides bait for other ports with none available
HANZELKA, DALE   January 28, 2013
CLINTON, WA  
Comments:
Yes, please pass this rule change.
JOHNSON, GARY L  January 28, 2013
RAYMOND, WA  
Comments:
We know why these and possibly who is probably putting these together for Neah Bay. The MA 4B closure didn't pass and it looks like a way to shut it down piece by piece. This is unfair to the recreational fishers and family and also to the economy of Neah Bay. #64 Cast net yes-catch your own bait for tuna fishing with a cast net-provides bait for other ports with none available
LEWIS, PHILIP J  January 28, 2013
RAYMOND, WA  
Comments:
yes this is a good change
KAMINSKI, LARRY   January 28, 2013
POULSBO, WA  
Comments:
Allow this regulation for tuna fishers
WALKER, GLEN L  January 28, 2013
KENT, WA  
Comments:
Catching anchovies by net is necessary in order to improve mortality of the bait. Live bait is not available in most ports.
HILL, JENNIFER   January 28, 2013
POULSBO, WA  
Comments:
yes-catch your own bait for tuna fishing with a cast net-provides bait for other ports with none available
MARTIN, DAVID B  January 28, 2013
FREELAND, WA  
Comments:
This would be a great opportunity to catch your own bait for tuna fishing with a cast net-provides bait for other ports where no bait is available.
PHILLIPS, RICHARD V  January 28, 2013
ENUMCLAW, WA  
Comments:
Catching your own bait should be allowed as there are plenty of bait fish not only in marinas but offshore. This practice is common in other fisheries in the south and east part of the USA. Will also help conserve expensive bait costs for trips such as tuna. Thank you.
FRIEND, STEPHEN   January 28, 2013
SHORELINE , WA  
Comments:
A recommend acceptance of this proposal.
WISNER, LEEROY   January 28, 2013
CHEHALIS, WA  
Comments:
Yes
TOBECK, ROBERT   January 28, 2013
RENTON, WA  
Comments:
I reccomend that this pass.
LOFTEN, CRAIG A  January 28, 2013
OLYMPIA, WA  
Comments:
Cast net yes-catch your own bait for tuna fishing with a cast net-provides bait for other ports with none available
SORENSEN, GARY C  January 28, 2013
ARLINGTON, WA  
Comments:
I agree with this proposal
BODINE, GARY A  January 28, 2013
BUCKLEY, WA  
Comments:
I suuport this proposal.
NAMES, THOMAS   January 28, 2013
RENTON, WA  
Comments:
#64 Cast net yes-catch your own bait for tuna fishing with a cast net-provides bait for other ports with none available
NAMES, THOMAS   January 28, 2013
RENTON, WA  
Comments:
#64 Cast net yes-catch your own bait for tuna fishing with a cast net-provides bait for other ports with none available
SCHMITT, JOSEPH L  January 28, 2013
JOYCE, WA  
Comments:
Yes i support this
SILVERS, MIKE G  January 28, 2013
LACEY, WA  
Comments:
yes-catch your own bait for tuna fishing with a cast net-provides bait for the ports with none available
ELLIOTT, TOM J  January 28, 2013
MARYSVILLE , WA  
Comments:
Yes. I have lived in areas of the country where cast nets are common. Its a lot of fun and provides free bait for the day. Great way to spend time with the kids making bait. This should be allowed in all parts of the sound.
CHAPMEN, PAUL   January 28, 2013
EDMONDS, WA  
Comments:
Few people are going to do this so why not allow those with interest to catch some bait.
BROWN, TOM C  January 28, 2013
FRIDAY HARBOR, WA  
Comments:
Yes as this will help people catch there own bait in ports that do not have it for sale.
AUMAN, DAVID W  January 28, 2013
TACOMA, WA  
Comments:
yes-catch your own bait for tuna fishing with a cast net-provides bait for other ports with none available
TENNEY, APRIL   January 28, 2013
GRANITE FALLS, WA  
Comments:
yes!!! catch your own bait for tuna fishing with a cast net-provides bait for other ports with none available
PETERSON, ERIC   January 28, 2013
LAKE STEVENS, WA  
Comments:
Yes, we should be allowed to catch our own bait for tuna fishing with a cast net-provides bait for other ports with none available
JOHNSTON, DON C  January 28, 2013
SEQUIM, WA  
Comments:
#63 Shrimp 200 Yes Build a non existant fishery-as inside fishery maxes, will provide a possible new fishery. There is no recreational pressure on this fishery now and could be to expensive with 80 shrimp current daily limit #64 Cast net yes-catch your own bait for tuna fishing with a cast net-provides bait for other ports with none available #65 Cabezon size limit- No- Marine area 4 has a lot of cabezon yet. Remove area 4 from size limit. Seems to be a push to shut down Neah Bay again little by little. Cabezon are a by-catch fish as they are custacean eaters and never will be a targetted fish as they do not commonly bite fishing lures. They are an occasional catch. Data cannot be used to show 20-30 rockfish caught for each lingcod/cabezon. #66 4A Fish protection-No-85% is already under closure and protection. This is a closure on the small boat fishery. The ocean fishery is still very healthy and the 4B test fishery of 2011 showed a large amount of rockfish caught caught in
OPSTAD, DAVID   January 28, 2013
MILL CREEK, WA  
Comments:
I agree with this rule change: Allow recreational fishers to catch their own live bait for use while fishing for tuna offshore.
FUGERE, TIM J  January 28, 2013
PUYALLUP, WA  
Comments:
Would love to be able to use a cast net to get my own bait and would like to add herring to the list also as a bait for salmon too. Costs of anchovies for a tuna run average about $75-100. Thanks for alloing me to add my input. Tim
BUCKLIN, LAURENCE A  January 28, 2013
UNIVERSITY PLACE, WA  
Comments:
Yes! Recreational fishing for albacore tuna is an emerging activity for which live bait is a proven methodology. Unfortunately, live bait in the form of anchovies or sardines is not consistently available to WA fishermen and, when available, is expensive. Approval of this rule change will allow recreational fishermen to catch their own bait in small quantities at minimal expense.
GETTER, DALE E  January 28, 2013
BOTHELL, WA  
Comments:
#64 Cast net yes-catch your own bait for tuna fishing with a cast net-provides bait for other ports with none available
MITCHELL, DAVID   January 28, 2013
SILVERDALE, WA  
Comments:
YES-provides bait for other ports with none available
REESE, DAVID M  January 28, 2013
WOODINVILLE , WA  
Comments:
yes-catch your own bait for tuna fishing with a cast net-provides bait for other ports with none available
LAPLANT, ADAM A  January 28, 2013
NORTH BEND, WA  
Comments:
Wdfw, Please pass this rule change. Adam laplant
HIMMELBERGER, TIM F  January 28, 2013
SNOQUALMIE, WA  
Comments:
Cast net yes-catch your own bait for tuna fishing with a cast net-provides bait for other ports with none available
DELINSKY, MICHAEL   January 28, 2013
EVERETT, WA  
Comments:
#64 Cast net yes-catch your own bait for tuna fishing with a cast net-provides bait for other ports with none available
CHILDS, JEFF   January 28, 2013
QUILCENE,, WA  
Comments:
Yes. Agree. Perhaps for a trial period to see what negative impact if any.
TOWNLEY, BRYAN   January 28, 2013
NORTH BEND, WA  
Comments:
It is ok to catch your own bait for tuna fishing with a cast net. However, this also provides attempting to catch bait for other ports with not enough available.
BERG, JEFFREY D  January 29, 2013
TACOMA, WA  
Comments:
It is about time that this be established. Fishermen should not be subjected to the outrageous prices the bait shops charge for bait that is readily available with a net to licensed fishers
FANTZ, TERESA L  January 29, 2013
MAPLE VALLEY, WA  
Comments:
Cast net yes-catch your own bait for tuna fishing with a cast net-provides bait for other ports with none available
ROSS, CHRISTOPHER G  January 29, 2013
BOTHELL, WA  
Comments:
Catch your own bait for tuna fishing with a cast net-provides bait for other ports with none available. This is how tuna is caught around the world
LUTZ, DAVID   January 29, 2013
WOODINVILLE, WA  
Comments:
I am in favor of allowing the use of cast nets to catch bait for personal use. I can't think of any good reason to not allow this to pass. There is no damage to the resource, since it is plentiful and will be used by the fisher. Currently, this bait must be purchased commercially, and may not be available in certain locations at all times.
THOMSON, WILLIAM G  January 29, 2013
ANACORTES, WA  
Comments:
Yes, provides more flexibility for the recreational angler.
CARTER, MICHAEL   January 29, 2013
POULSBO , WA  
Comments:
Yes on #64 to catch your own bait
HERRETT, MERLE E  January 29, 2013
LYNDEN, W  
Comments:
Yes. Let guys going out for tuna catch their own bait while going out.
REINHARDT, NORM   January 29, 2013
PORT ORCHARD, WA  
Comments:
This should be allowed for live bait albacore fishing
BRACKMANN, KARL H  January 29, 2013
WOODINVILLE, WA  
Comments:
Catching of own bait for tuna fishing will relieve pressure in other ports where there are none available. Quantities of both anchovy and herring are adequate to support this measure.
SHEEHAN, JOHN   January 29, 2013
SEATTLE, WA  
Comments:
Cast net Yes

Other Comments Received