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Sportfishing Rule Changes for 2016-2017

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Meeting Dec. 11-12, 2015

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Rule Change Recommendation Short Title
# 46. Adopt "no fishing from floating device" rules on select streams

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Rules Category
Coast

Type of Rule Change Proposal
Conservation

Short Description
Implement "no fishing from a floating device" rules on select North Coast streams. This proposal is being considered by the North Coast Advisory Group and will be refined as the Advisory Group provides feedback.

Explanation
Proposed to protect holding and spawning adult Salmon and Steelhead through reduced hooking/handling stress and mortality. See table.

Table for Proposal 46. Adopt "no fishing from floating device" rules on select streams.
Number

River

County

1

Bogachiel

Clallam

2

Calawah

Clallam

3

Clearwater

Jefferson

4

Dickey

Clallam

5

Hoh

Jefferson

6

Quillayute

Clallam

7

Quinault

Grays Harbor

8

Salmon

Grays Harbor

9

Snahapish

Jefferson

10

Sol Duc

Clallam

Related Public Proposals Received
DFW123891-16
DFW862512-16
DFW912892-16
DFW026686-16

Final Rule Actions

Staff Recommendation
Adopt as modified.

Commission Action
Adopted as modified.

Rule Modifications
WAC 220-310-180: No fishing from a floating device with an internal combustion motor, except no fishing from a floating device on the Hoh River from Morgan’s Crossing upstream to the National Park boundary.


Public Testimony

No public testimony

Online Public Comments  (661 comments)

LAMPERS, RAYMOND J  August 07, 2015
GRANITE FALLS, WA  
Comments:
no on elimimating fishing from boats on these rivers
JAMES, ART   August 09, 2015
PORT TOWNSEND, WA  
Comments:
If this proposal refers to my kayak, or to all the drift boats which frequent these streams - then I object. How would access to these fisheries be achieved if all boats were prohibited?
DURHAM, JOSEPH P  August 09, 2015
ABERDEEN, WA  
Comments:
I strongly oppose the rule on all streams listed, except for Dickey, Salmon (outside the Park, and QIN Reservation,) and the Snahapish)., All other streams are floatable, and should be allowed to be fished from floating devices. If there is sincere concern for fishing on spawning beds, close the rivers from an upstream point, that allow no pressure in the major spawning areas upstream of that point. Bank fishing,vs floating devices is not the tool to protect the spawning beds.
TACHELL, ART J  August 10, 2015
TACOMA , WA  
Comments:
only if Tribal harvest is closed!
TACHELL, JONATHAN T  August 10, 2015
GIG HARBOR, WA  
Comments:
I vote no on this proposal. This would be just one more unwarranted regulation set forth by fish conservancy groups. This would also impact the local economy and traditions (pulling plugs...etc) of fishing for steelhead on the Olympic Peninsula.
ALLEN, ROBERT E  August 11, 2015
VANCOUVER, WA  
Comments:
yes! this should be the rule for all fisheries where boat anglers are exceptionally effective and therefore handling too many fish. Part of this problem could be alleviated by catch and release fisheries in Puget Sound that were unjustifiably closed simply because they were part of a poorly performing ESU. Furthermore this rule should be adopted for the Klickitat river from Stinson Flats to the mouth and Grande Ronde rivers in South Washington from The state line to the crossing of SR 129. reducing fishing from a boat on these fisheries would reduce the impacts of our fisheries on ESA listed stocks of steelhead
PATTERSON, DOUGLAS I  August 11, 2015
MOUNTLAKE TERRACE, WA  
Comments:
Great idea
BURKLE, BOB   August 11, 2015
ELMA, WA  
Comments:
This is not a bad idea, as long a floating device could be used for access, as there is minimal access to most of these relatively large and remote rivers. I can think of very few places where it would not be easy to get out of the boat and fish from the bank, and certainly the constant conflicts between bank fishermen and boaters, with boaters typically anchoring up and hogging the hole, pulling plugs, or side drifting right through the hole you were fishing from the bank, would be eliminated. I like it, and would recommend applying this to the Humptulips, Satsop, and Wynoochee also (along with elimination of jet sleds from these rivers!). Seriously, I would also add "promote a more orderly fishery" to the explanation section above.
CRUTCHER, MICHAEL B  August 14, 2015
SEATTLE, WA  
Comments:
Please do not adopt this proposal. I have fished Oregon's Deschutes River for many years where this rule has been in effect as a conservation measure; it is effective because the Deschutes is wide and deep, allowing trout (especially) a sanctuary space. This is not true with the most of the rivers listed at most of their locations. In most case this rule will not create sanctuaries. The rule simply eliminates recreational opportunities for anglers like myself who are no longer confident wading in difficult conditions because of age and physical problems (I have already given up on The Deschutes after fishing it for 35 consecutive years. This rule will also put out of work a number of fine fishing guides who have invested their time and energy in these rivers. Bad idea.
HOLTCAMP, RON J  August 17, 2015
OLYMPIA, WA  
Comments:
Oppose closure of rivers to fishing from floating device. Adoption of this proposal would not restore fish populations ( as it is not applied to all harvesters ), and would concentrate recreational fishing pressure on the limited areas of public access.
TUGGLE, JAMES   August 19, 2015
TUMWATER, WA  
Comments:
This is a ridiculous and selfish proposal put forward by a very small segment of the steelhead fishing population who does not/cannot fish from boats. It further limits those who have trouble walking longer distances like the aged or disabled. If steelhead populations become so reduced, then close fishing for all, but don't designate it for a small segment of the steelhead fishing public. New regulations defining lure types and bait bans have solved much of the fish mortality issues of the past.
BURNS, KEITH L  October 10, 2015
ABERDEEN, WA  
Comments:
I think this is unfair to elderly anglers. I take an elderly friend on the Quinault river every year and this is the only way he can continue to see the area. There is also only a small area that a none tribal member can fish anyway.
JENNINGS, LYLE JENNINGS   October 12, 2015
ABERDEEN, WA  
Comments:
I do not agree with preventing fishing from a boat in many of these rivers. I believe this rule was tailored to those predominantly fly fishing and limits the opportunity for many of us. For example, those of us enjoying fishing from our boats (anchored and moving) or taking people unable to wade (too young or too old) these powerful rivers, our opportunity has been greatly reduced. For me, fishing is a getaway from the issues of every day life with the Olympic Peninsula being my destination. Please don't limit my opportunities on my favorite getaways.
CUSHING, STEPHEN W  October 16, 2015
BRUSH PRAIRIE, WA  
Comments:
I do not support proposal #46. Fishing from a floating devise spreads out the fishing pressure, and with selective rules, and catch and release of wild steelhead and trout will and to strong return runs.
MILLETTE, MATTHEW   October 16, 2015
BOZEMAN, MO  
Comments:
Agreed.
COLE, DAVID   October 16, 2015
REDMOND, WA  
Comments:
My support of this rule depends on what happens with rule #47 and #48. If bait is banned, and there is no harvest of wild steelhead, then the pressure will be reduced significantly. However, if harvest is still allowed and bait is still somewhat allowed, then I would completely support this rule as a way to reduce encounters with wild fish. Perhaps this rule would be best implemented on an experimental basis on a few rivers or in a few sections to see if has the desired impact.
EVENSON, TOM   October 18, 2015
BEND, OR  
Comments:
I am in favor of this however suggest it rotates from section to section over a 3-5 year period.
TAYLOR, AARON   October 18, 2015
ABERDEEN , WA  
Comments:
That's the stupidest experimental rule you can think of. The only solution to bringing back the runs of wild fish is brood stock like what was on the sul duck with the Snyder creek program which sent numbers through the roof! Since that program has been shut down the numbers in fish have already dramatically declined.. Catch and release, keeping the fish in the water the whole time, brood stock programs and river closures are what it going to take!
BOISVERT, ROBERT   October 19, 2015
OLYMPIA, WA  
Comments:
I agree that no fishing from a floating device should be adopted as per Proposal 46.
BEEBE, JAY   October 19, 2015
BAINBRIDGE ISLAND, WA  
Comments:
In order to help protect these fish, we need to offer some refugee while making their way to spawning grounds. Allowing fishing from a float device gives anglers the chance to fish every possible resting area that steelhead might hold. Banning this will allow fish to rest and will not discriminate against any means of fishing. This will not hurt guide business but promote it because individuals will need the skills and boats of guides to access these fish.
LEISHMAN, COLE J  October 19, 2015
BELLINGHAM, WA  
Comments:
I support this proposal. This would give the native fish a much better chance of not being handled poorly and restricts fishermen to fishing in certain areas.
WANG, DAVID A  October 19, 2015
MEDFORD, OR  
Comments:
I agree with this rule change 100%.
THYER, DAVID G  October 19, 2015
SEATTLE, WA  
Comments:
I strongly support this proposal. We need to reduce the fishing pressure on wild salmon and steelhead in all of these river systems.
LINTON, PETER E  October 19, 2015
BELLEVUE, WA  
Comments:
Fantastic idea, first, sometimes you're gonna need a break from fishing to look around at the river, second, the fish need a safe spot along the way where they aren't getting hit in the head with bait while they muster up their strength for the next run. I think this would be a great idea and really not take too much away from people fishing on a boat, like i said, its just a little fishing break.I think that it would be valuable to do some research on where the stretch could be placed relative to natural resting places for fish.
CHAUSSEE, CODY   October 20, 2015
SEATTLE, WA  
Comments:
I fully support the implementation of this proposal. Though it will not make everyone happy, there are plenty of opportunities to fish from a floating device elsewhere. Reducing the stress on the fish from these rivers is important to maintain a sustainable fishery. We must do what is best for the fish since they are in danger of being completely fished out.
BUNBURY, PARKER   October 20, 2015
SEATTLE, WA  
Comments:
I think the Hoh River would benefit greatly from a rule change such as this and I support it.
OTT, JACOB   October 20, 2015
WHITE SULPHUR SPRINGS, WV  
Comments:
No fishing from a floating device rules are superfluous if other common sense restrictions are enacted. Before restricting fishing from floating devices I think that restrictions on bait, and barbless hooks rules need to be enacted first.
RUSSELL, TRENT   October 20, 2015
CAMAS , WA  
Comments:
In favor
ZOR, DAVID J  October 21, 2015
PHOENIX, AZ  
Comments:
I am in support of proposed rule change 46. I support this for two reasons. One reason is that it stands to benefit the fish and allow more spawning fish to reach their destination due to reduced mortallity from angling. The other is that I am a wade fisherman and thenumber of boats has increased rapidly over the past few years. From what I gather the ethic of those fishing from a boat is not the most conservation minded, nor the most polite when it comes to respecting fellow anglers.
SMITH, RYAN   October 21, 2015
SEATTLE, WA  
Comments:
I support this proposal to give fish a refuge within the river, especially when flows are low. Also, the number of anglers fishing the Olympic Peninsula has only been increasing steadily with reduced steelhead fishing opportunity in the spring statewide. This rule change will also increase the safety of anglers as they will not be fishing when the rower is navigating the variable river conditions that exist on the OP.
ROBBINS, JESSE L  October 22, 2015
BAINBRIDGE ISLAND, WA  
Comments:
I am in full support. An experimental regulation is a great way to learn more about how such a regulation would affect the fishery.
MUELLER, GEOFF A  October 22, 2015
FORT COLLINS, CO  
Comments:
I support this measure b/c the regulation would provide refuge for steelhead within heavily fished river sections. But experimentation would be needed to determine if the regulation reduces encounters with steelhead and/or facilitates better sharing of the resource. This should be accomplished on one section(s) of river on an experimental basis.
CHAMBERS, NICK F  October 23, 2015
CORVALLIS, OR  
Comments:
This rule has been used effectively from Alaska to California to give fish a place to hide on heavily pressured rivers. It does not limit angler opportunity and will help with declining runs. Lets do it!!
PITT, ROBIN   October 25, 2015
SEATTLE, WA  
Comments:
I travel a few times a year to the Deschutes River to fish. I'm sure you know you can not fish from a boat on the Deschutes. I really like it! It helps spread out the fishermen and has taught me more about the river. As a fly fishermen I always get out of the boat to swig flies. I think it's a great idea to have one river on the coast that you can not fish from a boat.
PURDIE, JASON   October 25, 2015
EDMONDS, WA  
Comments:
I am 100% opposed to this proposal to shut down fishing from boats in these coastal rivers. There is not an overwhelming amount of recreational fishermen pressure currently so this proposal is unnecessary. I have fished many of these rivers and most of the time I do not see more than a handful of boats in a given day. The majority of boats are operated by professional guides that are respectful of the resources and handle the fish with care, putting little to no stress on them. Adopting this proposal would be a huge economic blow to the sport fishing guides as well as the coastal communities that rely on fishermen visiting. The vast majority of people fishing these rivers are doing so with fishing guides and I believe the guides do an excellent job of educating people about the resource and how fragile it is, thus turning many people every year into advocates and supporters of the resource. I think that methods used by tribal agencies need to be reformed first and foremost.
ANDERSON, SHANE T  October 25, 2015
OLYMPIA, WA  
Comments:
I support no fishing from floating devices in all of the rivers. Our fish need a break from the pressure. Sportsman should put the sport back in fishing and share the resource more and use boats for transportation only.
BLAKLEY, BRANDON   October 25, 2015
LAKE STEVENS, WA  
Comments:
absoluetly insane. Conservation is much needed in the state, what are the tribes doing on their part to contribute? Pumping money into hatchery programs while netting & dessimating wild fish stocks is conservation.
IVERSEN, THOMAS   October 25, 2015
SEQUIM, WA  
Comments:
I approve of this proposal, since those are the only rivers open to fish for wild steelhead they receive too much pressure.
RIFENBURY, CHRIS   October 25, 2015
MOUNT VERNON, WA  
Comments:
My comments are that its garbage. Y'all are shutting down every river and tributary on our state that we pay for quite literally. For the greater amount of us like me I am a 4 time Iraqi was veteran. This is my release. My therapy. Now you have taken that away. I have a couple buddies that guide these rivers in the closures and you have quite possibly taken away around $15,000- $20,000 from their yearly income. Families lives will be affected. War veterans will be affected. All because the tribes want to keep netting for them selves. We are not the problem. Tribes are driving the salmon percentage down.
BAXTER, JOEL D  October 25, 2015
ABERDEEN, WA  
Comments:
I don't think that this proposal is a good idea for a couple of reasons. First if fishing from floating devices is banned in the mentioned tributaries I think the resulting added fishing pressure to other tributaries would be rather overweening. Secondly it is impractical to assume that something like this is going to have the desired effect on fish population when there is commercial harvest on fish witch has a far greater impact on all fish stalks.
CLABAUGH, MATT D  October 25, 2015
TACOMA, WA  
Comments:
I am in favor of this proposal for no fishing from a floating device. I am especially in favor of this proposal between the timeframe of December 15 - April 30 or previous closures. Fishing from a floating device permitted between first weekend of June through December 14. This would be an additional conservation measure for wild steelhead that are in need of additional Protection.
LIND, JASON   October 25, 2015
CAMAS, WA  
Comments:
This proposal is horrible. Many people use floating devices. This is just another way to take our rights away after we've paid for fishing licenses.
PRICE, CHAD C  October 25, 2015
BEAVERTON, OR  
Comments:
I do not believe this proposal is a good idea. I do not believe banning boats while allowing bank fishing will truly affect conservation needs. The banning of bait and mandatory release of wild fish are good measures but I don't agree with not allowing floatation devices is an equitable measure for all user groups.
FARMER, PAT   October 25, 2015
HOQUIAM, WA  
Comments:
I strongly disagree with this measure. There is already very limited access to most of these rivers and without a boat you cannot access the water to fish. I think that if this is implemented then fishing licenses should be reduced for fresh water fishing as this will dramatically reduce the amount of time that I, among many others will spend on the water. Close upper portions of the rivers like the Clearwater before cutting fishing from a boat altogether....how do you fish during high water if there is no bank to stand on?
LUND, ERIK   October 25, 2015
SAMMAMISH, WA  
Comments:
I am an avid drift boat fishermen. The forks area river system has always been our rivers where we can fish without the constant parade of jet sleds going by. This rule change would decimate the fishing guides who make a living on those rivers and the economy would suffer without the drift boat fishermen no longer spending money in the forks area.
HAYES, MIKE F  October 25, 2015
FEDERAL WAY, WA  
Comments:
Against this as I take several fisherman down these river that cannot (physical limits) exit and re-enter my driftboat time and again thru out a day of fishing. A lot of stretches of these rivers have brush lined shores that offer only fishing from boat.
KOCHMAN, ALEXANDER   October 25, 2015
BELLINGHAM , WA  
Comments:
This is ridiculous. If anything, reduce the limit, don't close the stream. There are tons of guides that will be out of business because of this. You need to do creel surveys and general surveys before making a decision like this. You can't just base it off of a projection. Also, with a rule like "closing the river to fishing from all floating devices" you are sending a very clear message to fishing guides that says "We don't want you on the river" and "Your business isn't important to us". I'm not sure what the future holds for people fishing in Washington, but this constant stream of disrespect towards fisherman in the form of unneeded regulations, license increases, and general mismanagement and decrease of fishing opportunity in Washington State, has caused people to leave. I am a prime example. A Bellingham, Washington resident. I grew up fishing in the area. Now, I live in Montana, where I feel wildlife is managed much better, and the state isn't constantly trying to screw you.
LUND, MARK C  October 25, 2015
KENT, WA  
Comments:
I'm opposed to this proposal. The state and special interest groups are eliminating a majority of opportunities in the state for the majority of fishermen. I enjoy fishing out of my drift boat on the peninsula rivers. I often take my 73 year old father who has health problems. It would eliminate his ability to fish there.
WEST, MICHIEL   October 25, 2015
KALAMA , WA  
Comments:
No! No! No! Come on, it is bad enough that ESA thinks we have wild steelhead and salmon after having hatchery influence for around 90 years prior to clipping a fin.(Segregation)If you do this you will put allot of guides out of business. It is hard enough to fish the type of people that go on a guide trip in boat. Try and bank fish them all. Besides there is so much private property that would also cause drastic combat fishing in the spots that we are able to fish. This whole steelhead and salmon fishing politics is getting out of hand and if you keep making pore decisions like this one, people may just rebel. I have been a guide for 29 years now. I have watched allot stupid things happen during this time. How about we just get real and plant lots of integrated hatchery fish in all of our tributary's. They were they smart in the late 1800's. How come the so called educated people from present time don't get it?
HATCH, RYAN   October 25, 2015
SEQUIM, WA  
Comments:
First you close our rivers now you are going to not let us fish from a boat? You guys really are funded by the wfc aren't you. We pay as lot of money to fish each year and really, not boat fishing only makes it better for fly fisherman anyhow. You are going to over crowd the already over crowded bank access. What real science is this based on? Stupid.
MELTON, TOM   October 25, 2015
BELLEVUE, WA  
Comments:
Have any of you ever fished these streams? There is no way you could stop and get out of a boat on long floats such as the Clearwater, Quinault, Sol Duc, Hoh etc. I've been fishing the OP for 30 years. It's impossible. You fish a hole from a boat and move on. Its a very simple concept. You release the fish in deep water without dragging it up on a beach where it can flop itself to death. Why don't you guys quit kowtowing to the spey rodders, ie the WFC, and get a clue. Better yet, how about you stand up to the tribes once in a while. A gillnet does a lot more damage to a run of fish than the sport fishermen do...
DESJARDINS, JUSTIN J  October 25, 2015
SEQUIM, WA  
Comments:
"to protect holding and spawning adult Salmon and Steelhead through reduced hooking/handling stress and mortality" This is ridiculous. The number of fish that sport fishermen take is far less than the native nets and commercial fisheries. If harming fish is the reason If I understand the proposed purpose correctly then change how native and commercial fisheries operate. Most of us sport fishermen love the fish and respect the balance of keeping a healthy stock. Look at the ones that do not respect it and don't punish us for it.
HESS, JUSTIN F  October 25, 2015
EDGEWOOD , WA  
Comments:
Please implement these laws. These fish need places to rest without being constantly harassed by drift boat after drift boat. I've watched the numbers dwindle throughout the years and this law was needed years ago.
CORMIER, ROBERT P  October 25, 2015
SAMMAMISH, WA  
Comments:
This seems like a pretty extreme measure as it will impact the livelihood of the guides who fish these rivers. Why not move to strict Catch and Release on all Peninsula rivers. We should not be able to kill any native Steelhead. Thanks for asking
YANAK, RICHARD   October 25, 2015
EDGEWOOD, WA  
Comments:
The Indians net thousands of steelhead and WDFW is considering this on such a broad area. Why not just shut it down so the Indians can take more based on forgone opportunity. This state has let commercials harvest based on Maximum Sustained yield, Grays harbor, Columbia ... Lets keep screwing The Sports fisherman that fund WDFW...
CHASTAIN, DAVID R  October 25, 2015
PORT ANGELES, WA  
Comments:
Too much boat traffic on all Olympic Peninsula rivers. Institute some sort of permit system for number of guides or boaters daily during the peak seasons. Stop allowing any kill fishery for wild steelhead.
MCMILLEN, SAM K  October 25, 2015
SEATTLE, WA  
Comments:
This is a tough issue. I fish the bank mostly but also have a driftboat. I get tired of the boat parade and see that it leaves the fish very little water were they are not harrased. However putting everyone on the bank will create another type of crowding and alot more feet on the spaning gravel. There should be more conversation regarding the guide industry and how many guides are able to operate in the area. Additionally there should be a catch and release limit if you are serious about reducing mortality from hookups.
AKERILL, MARK   October 26, 2015
NASELLE, WA  
Comments:
are you effin kidding me how much of this greener fly guy mentality do we have to put up with. Half these rivers get gill netted regularly which is ok. But to tell the public they can't fish out of there boats is ridiculous.To say nothing about cutting every regular guides throat. Please reconsider this silly idea. Mark Akerill
FROEMBLING, DAVID   October 26, 2015
TACOMA, WA  
Comments:
Do not adopt this ruling
JUNGBLOM, ERIC   October 26, 2015
FERNDALE, WA  
Comments:
Question? Is this going to be permanent or temporary change? I think this would be a horrible idea. I have not fished all of these rivers but have fished some. From my limited experience there are very, very few spots were it would be possible to fish if this policy was adopted.
HELDER, BRAD   October 26, 2015
BAINBRIDGE ISLAND, WA  
Comments:
I fully support this proposal.
BISCEGLIA, DALE   October 26, 2015
FOX ISLAND, WA  
Comments:
I've been fishing the Hoh, Clearwater, Queets and the Quinault for 40 years by drift boat. We enjoy the rivers because of the solitude and beauty of the area. I see no reason to restrict drift boat fishery on these rivers and if this is adopted by the state of Washington the state would lose dollars due to people fed up with our disruption of our love of fishing. If this is a move to protect the wild run of salmon and steelhead you're making a big mistake. What should be looked at is how the commercial and Indian fishery affects the fish. I know Indian guides that take people on the lower Quinault and Queets and kill 10-20 fisher per fisherman, now this is injustice and should be stopped asap.
BOMAN, KENNETH   October 26, 2015
DUVALL, WA  
Comments:
I vote not to accept this. Many of the rivers simply have no bank access, and this would reduce or almost eliminate the ability to fish these streams. This also unfairly punishes those of limited or reduced mobility to enjoy fishing these rivers.
MARKS, ERIK   October 26, 2015
SEATTLE, WA  
Comments:
Hi. I want to wholeheartedly endorse this proposal. These streams are the crown jewels of Washington fishing. This proposed rule will both conserve the fishing resources and protect the aesthetic experience. The Deschuttes River in Oregon has long had a rule that prohibits fishing from a floating device and it works very well there. The Deschuttes is a beautiful stream to fish, the fishing is excellent, and the conservation and aesthetic are excellent. And while fishing from the bank, you don't have the experience of boats "competing" for position to cast or pull plugs. Anchors are not constantly being dropped and dragged on the stream bed. Prohibiting fishing from a floating device will both assist in fish conservation and improve the aesthetic experience of the people who fish. Thank you for your efforts to preserve the incredible beauty and fishing quality of our crown jewel rivers!
TOMPKINS, CHRIS   October 26, 2015
SHORELINE, WA  
Comments:
I am opposed to implementing the no fishing from a floating device on these rivers. It would be unfair to those older less agile anglers like myself, I cant fish the shoreline / bank anymore because of limited mobility due to my age and health restrictions. Restricting boat fishing will essentially eliminate my opportunity to fish those rivers which I find appalling and unfair. I am opposed to this rule proposal for those reasons. Boat fishing should be allowed to continue as is. Thank you.
MANSELL, STEVE   October 26, 2015
RENTON, WA  
Comments:
Once again a proposal that screws the recreational fisherman. I have lived here and fished here my whole life and I'm considering taking my dollars elsewhere.
OLDFIELD, BRIAN   October 26, 2015
OLYMPIA, WA  
Comments:
To me as a guide this is not acceptable as some spots can not be safely fished from the bank. It also limits the techniques as pulling plugs can only be done from a boat. It would severely limit my options on many days. Sincdrely, Brian Oldfield
PENTT, FRED O  October 26, 2015
HOQUIAM, WA  
Comments:
You wanting to make these river for bank fishing only? Have you even taken into your pea sized brains that older people with disabilities that enables us from bank fishing are now not going to be able to go fishing anymore? I go with several guides a year and I am not able to get in and out of the boat very well. I'm 72 years old and hope to have a few more fishing trips in my body. I am no longer able to row myself and any others down the river anymore. Do you not care that fishing guides need to make a living or do you want them on the welfare dole? If this crazy idea of yours continues I will contact the American Disabilities Act (ADA) and, if possible, a law suit will follow. What are you thinking? Fred P. Hoquiam, WA. 98550
YORK, TRACY S  October 26, 2015
PRIEST RIVER, ID  
Comments:
Restricting fishing from a "floating device" is ridiculous! The access to these coastal rivers is difficult enough when accessing with a drift boat or raft. You would essentially be closing them down. Maybe a better route to go would be restricting or outlawing nets in these coastal rivers. If the tribes can still put nets in these rivers, then there must not be a problem with sustaining healthy runs, or they would self regulate themselves to make sure the runs are healthy. I am totally against shutting rivers down to "floating devices. I am 61 years old, and would have a tough time trying to get to most of the fishing on these rivers from the bank.
HANSON, SCOTT A  October 26, 2015
ENUMCLAW, WA  
Comments:
I do not agree with this because there are several rivers on this list that has very little bank access and or very little areas to fish from the bank. The smaller rivers on this list I would be in agreement with. I can see this as being just the beginning as in the case of a lot of the new seasons and regulations. It is becoming harder and harder to keep track of all the regulations we have now and us fisherman are getting less and less seasons and etc... and keep paying more. Also on some of these rivers on the list there is NO WAY that you will be able to patrol the regulation. I release about 90% of the fish I catch and just like to fish and occasionally catch something. I think I speak for a lot us older sportsman that remember what it was like even just 10 -15 years ago and if possible would move out of this state. For example: here we are in the peak of the river Salmon run and there is about 3 rivers in the state that are open. It just keeps getting worse and worse!!
ALLEN, JOHN E  October 26, 2015
GIG HARBOR, WA  
Comments:
This rule would result in my not being able to fish for Steelhead, consequently I would no longer purchase fishing licenses. This rule would effectively make 75 - 90% of these rivers no fishing zones. The Indians net these rivers without regard to limits or the wild/hatchery designations and this rule would essentially eliminate any non-native fishing. How does that fit the "fishing in common" rule set out by the Bolt decision? Playing and Landing fish from a boat is much easier on the fish than playing and landing one from the shore because you can follow the fish and land it before it becomes overly tired. So the only thing this rule does is reduce the number of fish caught. How many fishermen are going to quit fishing and buying licenses because they can no longer fish and/or catch fish? Isn't the revenue from fishing licenses the primary source of funds for managing the state fisheries?
SCHEER, ANDY   October 26, 2015
BREMERTON , WA  
Comments:
Stop it!..Really?!?!??....Why are the sportsman always the ones to take the blows......Not being able to float down the Forks Rivers?.......You people need to start thinking with your brain,s and not your wallets.....You need better control of commerical fishing.Why does it not matter to them if the fish are wild or hatchery?!?!.....Fish caught all the way up in the Gulf of Alaska that are meant to come back to Washington, and spawn here are getting catch 1000s of miles away from their spawning ground.....Come on WDFW!
BRIDENBACK, LARRY R  October 26, 2015
ELMA, WA  
Comments:
what will be done for handicap fisherman who can't walk the shore or climb in an out of boats?
HOVLAND, NICK   October 26, 2015
BELLINGHAM, WA  
Comments:
As a fisherman, I am all for it. Those poor steelhead are getting incredible pressure from all the hundreds of boats that fish every square foot of water. I do think limiting this proposal to wild steelhead season only though, like new years through April.
BOSSELMAN, KURT   October 26, 2015
SEATTLE, WA  
Comments:
I'm against this rule. This will just serve to cram more anglers into smaller areas. One of the reasons to get a boat is to be able to get away from the crowds. With this rule you'll end up with mini-Blue Creek areas up and down the river where everyone congregates in the few areas that are effectively fished from the bank. Also, why would this apply to Salmon? During most year the coast rivers see robust runs of salmon. Some people compare this to the rule on the Deschutes river in Oregon. I also fish down there and the big difference there is that on the Deschutes there are thousands of trout per mile and even with the no fishing from a floating device rule there are still ample spots where you can find quality fishing from the bank. On the coast rivers for salmon and steelhead the amount of water and number of fish you can effectively access from the bank is much more limited.
GOAKEY, RANDY   October 26, 2015
BREMERTON, WA  
Comments:
If your talking about closing the entire rivers to no fishing from floating devices I'm totally against it.
DUBOIS, JAMES   October 26, 2015
TACOMA, WA  
Comments:
I believe the goal of this proposal would be better served if the rule change was to, "bait only", to deter snagging.
CARR, RANDLE T  October 26, 2015
BELLINGHAM, WA  
Comments:
This is unnecessary. It will also lead to trampled shore habitat as people try to access the streams. Guides can supervise limits and other behaviors. If you want to give the salmon a better chance, get the gill nets out of the river first.
FROEMBLING, CYNTHIA   October 26, 2015
TACOMA, WA  
Comments:
I am firmly against this proposal. Fishing from Drift boats and floating devices should NOT be banned! Rule #46 Should not be adopted!
SASKOR, MIKE   October 26, 2015
BOTHELL, WA  
Comments:
This is a terrible idea. This will force over-population on any accessible bank access. Why don't you consider making wild steelhead 100% catch and release instead?
ANGEVINE, JOE   October 26, 2015
COVINGTON, WA  
Comments:
Some spots you can't fish from the bank due to current speed and brush overhang. It will be combat fishing on the banks worse then it is now. Fishing from a boat allows people to spread out and fish different water. I would rather have regulated launches for guides and private fishermen. A annual pass to fish up on the coast for private fishermen like the Columbia river endorsement. Only allow local guides with permanent Forks address on the water, to many guides from outside the region head up there for the winter/spring steelhead season.
MILLER, BRYNAN   October 26, 2015
PORT ORCHARD WASHINGTON, WA  
Comments:
Not a good idea for all of the guides on these rivers
MCCLAIN, DAVID A  October 26, 2015
KINGSTON, WA  
Comments:
What a great rule change this would be for our coastal rivers. What an increase in the quality of the fishing experience. Thank you for considering this change. Thumbs up
WAUGH, BRIAN   October 26, 2015
MONROE, WA  
Comments:
With no boats, there will be a lot of foot traffic. Which means clumsy/ignorant people stomping on redds. While im all for the protection of our last great steelhead stronghold, i think getting rid of the one unclipped steelhead per year will have a more positive affect.
WERTZ , RANDALL   October 26, 2015
LACEY , WA  
Comments:
No, not a great idea, you will ruin sporting fishing and the economic benefits to a lot of Olympic Peninsula towns. Don't do it!
DELEZA, TOM   October 26, 2015
ORTING, WA  
Comments:
Disagree with proposal.
HUBBARD, GEORGE   October 26, 2015
PORT LUDLOW, WA  
Comments:
The guides should be regulated to reduce the number of fish being caught, stressed before being released. hey book trips 7 days per week during peak of of the season. Some brag about 25 hookups per day.
HUBBARD, GEORGE   October 26, 2015
PORT LUDLOW, WA  
Comments:
The guides should be regulated to reduce the number of fish being caught, stressed before being released. hey book trips 7 days per week during peak of of the season. Some brag about 25 hookups per day.
SIMMS, RICH K  October 26, 2015
MUKILTEO, WA  
Comments:
Support as written. The Olympic Peninsula rivers are under more intense pressure than ever with displace anglers from other areas and the influx of interest from out state anglers and guides which is creating higher interaction rate with wild steelhead and increased handling. Currently basically every section of river, below the deadlines are accessible, this regulation will provide some in river sanctuary for wild steelhead, especially as fish begin to stage on the spawning areas. This regulation should be amended to include the all the current selective water on the Hoh River, which has been irregular in making escapements. This regulation still provides opportunity while providing some in river sanctuary. This regulation has provided value for other rivers such as the Deschutes in Oregon and the Skeena System tributaries.
KRICK, MATTHEW   October 26, 2015
OCEAN SHORES, WA  
Comments:
The timber companies have locked us out of our hunting areas without paying a fee. Now fw is considering kicking off the rivers. You must really not want funding. Focus on securing land to hunt on and improving fish returns not aiding the timber companies and kicking us off rivers
TILLMAN, JOHN L  October 26, 2015
ELMA, WA  
Comments:
Great idea.
BETTS, ROBERT   October 26, 2015
REDMOND, WA  
Comments:
I am a 72 year old Washington native who has been fishing on a regular basis since I was 4 years old. I suffer from a degenerative back injury that makes my legs unstable and accordingly it's unsafe for me to fish from the bank. Eliminating fishing from a boat will end my near life long passion. This is an unfair proposal and probably violates the Americans With Disabilities Act.
SANDALL, JOSEPH   October 26, 2015
YELM, WA  
Comments:
I don't usually fish using a float however there are a lot of others who do. As with any type of fishing the sportman has to control how and when he hooks the fish. The method or methods should not be limited. I believe periodic closure would help mortality rates rather than limiting methods of catching.
BELLOWS, CHRISTOPHER   October 26, 2015
STEAMBOAT SPRINGS, CO  
Comments:
This is an important rule proposal to give steelhead a break during the crowding that happens now in the winter months on the Olympic Peninsula. It should be applied to every river, but you should at least start with the Hoh River from the Olympic National Park boundary to Morgan's Crossing boat launch. The Hoh experiences run sizes below escapement too often, and this rule can allow more spawners to be unmolested in the upper river therefore giving those fish that escape a better shot at spawning and will improve the experience on the water for anglers.
FEE, RYLEY   October 26, 2015
BOTHELL, WA  
Comments:
While I certainly agree additional measures to reduce" hooking/handling stress and mortality" are needed for Steelhead, I feel this proposal misses the mark in several ways. First, Many streams are difficult to fish from the bank on, and elimination of fishing from a boat would greatly reduce the fish able water in some stream where there is little to no decent bank access. On the much of the Sol Duc or within Hoh Canyon for example, there is little to no safe place to fish good water and I fear that requiring anglers to leave their boats will create safety concerns. Adoption of this proposal will effectively cut off large pieces of water from fisherman entirely because of unsafe bank conditions. In some stretches of these rivers, the only decent river bank suitable to fish from will be crowded with anglers, ruining the experience for those who wish to find a little peace and fish. This proposal also inherently favors anglers who fly fish versus those who fish with conventional tackle
SIMBE, BRETT R  October 26, 2015
LAKE STEVENS, WA  
Comments:
While in favor of protecting Salmon and Steelhead and being involved with CCA and Puget Sound Anglers I do NOT believe this proposal should be adopted. Thank you for the opportunity to comment Brett R. Simbe
WOLVERT, BRIAN P  October 26, 2015
RANDLE, WA  
Comments:
I oppose this proposal because I believe it creates more crowding in the few bank fishing locations. If to much pressure on the fish is the issue I believe their are better ways to deal with it, create a permit system or limit number of guides. However, before any of theses things are considered the retention of wild steelhead should stop both recreational and tribal.
MORAVEC, ANDREW W  October 26, 2015
SNOQUALMIE, WA  
Comments:
This rule proposal is not in the best interest of the overall public. It limits fishing opportunity and would devastate the local fishing guide community, and would cripple the economies of many Olympic Peninsula communities including Forks, Port Angeles, Aberdeen, Hoquiam, and many others. This rule proposal is an extreme overreach of managing our fisheries. The majority of sportsmen are for a mandatory catch and release policy for Wild Steelhead, many are in favor of selective gear rules in upper watersheds. Many sportsmen are in favor of conservation, but this rule only serves the minority groups that are extreme convservationalists and would not be supported by the majority of people that enjoy fishing on the Olympic Peninsula. It would be equally extreme to propose a rule change that states, "no wading while fishing" to protect spawning redds. Which would equal the ridiculousness of this rule proposal,
ANDERSON, JERRY   October 26, 2015
REDMOND, WA  
Comments:
I am a disabled Vietnam veteran. Several times a year I book trips with guides on the Olympic Peninsula rivers. It is hard for me to get in and out of a boat, much less to try to fish from the bank. This rule discriminates against me and my disabilities. I pay for my license like every one else and you're not going to let me fish? Sounds like an ADA violation to me. Maybe I'll talk to a lawyer about this. If you are so concerned about the fish why don't you address the elephant in the room, the GILLNETS??? Do your damn jobs and manage the fish for everyone. Quit blaming the sportsman! Thank you
MURRAY, SHAWN   October 26, 2015
OLYMPIA, WA  
Comments:
The first logical step should be BANNING THE KILLING OF WILD STEELHEAD ON ALL PENINSULA RIVERS. Removing boats concentrates people in the limited spaces that have bank access, and is discriminatory towards people who can't get to the limited bank access spots. This is a horrible idea.
PERRY, BENJAMEN   October 26, 2015
OLYMPIA, WA  
Comments:
I urge you to not adopt this rule. There are many people who make their livings guiding boats on these rivers for sport fishermen. There are many more sport anglers who simply like to get away from the hustle and bustle of the city and drift fish through an area largely untouched by development. Instead of targeting sport fishermen (who always seem to foot the bill for the sake of a fish run) how about returning to the negotiating table with the native tribes who continue to harvest more and more fish while the sport angler gets shut out. Whatever fish may be saved from this rule will just end up in a gill net somewhere downstream as the indian fishermen take up the slack. Do not adopt this rule!
MCCLELLAND, SCOTT   October 26, 2015
DUVALL, WA  
Comments:
This would be a terrible shame since the rule would put the remaining guides our if work. Plus many of theses rivers listed have very little lands access. It would cause contention between land owners and anglers. I vote against these adoptions. The hoh has done access, but the sol dduc has very little as well as the quiltute. I boat on several of theses rivers only twice a year and really don't see any negative impact on redds a most fish are spawning up river much further. Between rains and high river flows there is already limited chances to float the rivers . Thank you for your time and consideration. Scott McClelland
NOVELLI, DAVID R  October 27, 2015
SOUTH LYON, MI  
Comments:
I feel that this proposal will not lead to the conservation efforts being desired, but will lead to economical impact to the Coastal rivers area economy. Many of us fisherman travel to the Coastal area (Forks) to fish for steelhead and Salmon throughout the year. I myself visit the area 3 times a year and fish with local guides. Between myself and others that travel with me, I would estimate that we spend in excess of $20,000 per year, which helps the local economy. We and most guides practice safe handling techniques and release all of our fish so we have a resource in the future. Adopting this proposal would eliminate our trips to the coastal rivers and look else where throughout the country to fish and impacting the economy itself financially. I feel if we are fishing from the bait it is in deep holes, where the said fish are not spawning. When we fish from shore it is in shallow runs below the reds, which we should prevent if anything. Feel free to contact me.
CORTIS , M   October 27, 2015
NOVI, MI  
Comments:
I say No. This should NOT BE ADOPTED. It's a very bad idea.
BRODECK, KEN R  October 27, 2015
BEND, OR  
Comments:
I fish the Deschutes in Oregon a lot, the no fishing from a boat on the lower 100 miles is a fantastic rule on this river as it allows for sanctuary areas in the river where the fish can rest. Please implement this on the OP Rivers, i make a couple of trips to the area per year in the spring and would welcome this rule and still use my drift boat for transportation but get out and swing flies from the bank.
MCGUINNESS, CRAIG   October 27, 2015
BRIDGEWATER, NJ  
Comments:
This rule change will make such a large economic impact on your towns the family who rely on this beautiful resource. Its all to satisfy the interest of one select group of people who fly fish. Fishing from a boat is not harmful to the streams. Anytime a fish is hooked from a boat we always return to the bank to take a picture and release with no harm to the fish. I am an East Coast guy who loves to chase steelhead across the country. This February will be my second trip to the OP to fish and could be my last if this law is passed and i will take my money to another state. People continue to say the return of fish is low and that is true due to the netting by the natives. How can fish make it past if they net so aggressively? Because there are Special Interest Groups looking to impose this law you will be harming more groups who have a love for the OP, companies who have built a business around this fishery and families who rely on it to survive.
O'SULLIVAN, SHANNON   October 27, 2015
PORT ANGELES, WA  
Comments:
Sounds like the fly fishing elitist are pushing for another ridiculous rule to get the average guy off there rivers.
HUBBARD, GEORGE   October 27, 2015
PORT LUDLOW, WA  
Comments:
Please consider selected days for boats. Suggest 2 days per week
ONEIL, MICHEAL J  October 27, 2015
MONTESANO, WA  
Comments:
This is absolutely the single most rediculos proposal I have ever seen. Can the people who are pushing this please explain where these fish spawn???? What will happen is all theses same people will be tramping across the riffles and tailouts where these fish are spawning. Secondly, if there is any real concern for the fish we (as sportsmen) would be UNITED to fight the nets. This proposal is another attempt to devide us. Another attack on our way of life. No way!
WEBER, WAYNE   October 27, 2015
MEXICO , NY  
Comments:
This proposal is unnecessary and would only hurt the economy buy further limiting guides fishing from boats. This will not only cause guides to lose business but everyone from restaurants and hotels to tackle shops.
MALLAHAN, DAVID   October 27, 2015
FORKS, WA  
Comments:
I do not believe that not fishing from a boat would be the Right conservation move fish would be dragged Up on rocks , sand and mud none of which are good on the fish In a boat you can bring the fish alongside the boat and easily remove the hook or cut the line If this rule change does go into affect it will also affect the number of injuries to humans on the river getting in and out of boats walking on slippery rocks and possibly increase drownings Also are the tribes going to be outlawed from fishing in boats and run their nets off the shore David Mallahan Dave's guide service Forks wa
MALLAHAN, DAVID   October 27, 2015
FORKS, WA  
Comments:
I do not believe that not fishing from a boat would be the Right conservation move fish would be dragged Up on rocks , sand and mud none of which are good on the fish In a boat you can bring the fish alongside the boat and easily remove the hook or cut the line If this rule change does go into affect it will also affect the number of injuries to humans on the river getting in and out of boats walking on slippery rocks and possibly increase drownings Also are the tribes going to be outlawed from fishing in boats and run their nets off the shore David Mallahan Dave's guide service Forks wa
LENCHO, BRIAN J  October 27, 2015
BOTHELL, WA  
Comments:
Bad idea = it discriminates against older anglers who cannot fish from the bank. It also increases pressure on those spots that can be effectively fished from shore, effectively creating hatchery-like fishing pressure in these spots. I'm all for more restrictive regulations to protect the fish, but this would seem to have more negative impact on the quality of fishing and less overall benefit for the fish. Implement selective gear rules, no kill on wild steelhead, or even limited days the river is open. All these preserve the quality of the fishing experience while providing additional protections for the fish. Thanks!
PERRY, TYLER   October 27, 2015
BOTHELL , WA  
Comments:
I disagree with this idea. Fishing from a boat is sometimes the only option on these rivers. Whether is due to a person’s disability, privet property or reduce bank access due to water conditions fishing from a boat should be an option on these rivers. If conservation is needed to sustain the runs then consider closing select sections of river to boat fishing and or all fishing but do not restrict boat access completely. Thank you for your time Capt Tyler S Perry
ALEXANDER, BRIAN   October 27, 2015
PUYALLUP, WA  
Comments:
My opinions as a sports angler, is that every year more and more fishing opportunities are being stripped from us. Not only do we have to sit back and watch these endangered runs being devastated by the tribes while we are on a closure, and before that is lifted you are all talking about other fisheries to strip from us. I'm tired of the mis management of our resources. And as the cost of fishing continue to increase, and the opportunities becoming more rare, I can say YOU , WDFW, ARE FAILING THE PEOPLE WHO FIND THESE FISHERIES AND ANNUAL SALARIES.
WARREN, NICHOLAS   October 27, 2015
PUYALLUP, WA  
Comments:
This is bullshit. Sorry for the harsh words but it is. I understand protection of beds and spawning but do you not see that the tribes and commercial fishermen are hurting it more than us sportsman fishing these rivers in our boats. You guys keep putting more restrictions on the sportsman's but when a river is closed for my fishing the tribes have their nets stretched all the way across. It's not fair and it's hard for me to sit idle about it. More restrictions on the sportsman's is not that answer. It needs to be on the tribes and commercial guys. Do you not understand the impact financially you would put on the guides hotels stores if you do this.
ROCK, CONNOR   October 27, 2015
SEATTLE, WA  
Comments:
I am not sure why you cannot use a boat. That is ridiculous thought that the fish would be better off from the bank. As bank anglers don't always use a net bringing the fish onto the rocks and tiring those fish out.
COLLUM, JOHN W  October 27, 2015
MOCLIPS, WA  
Comments:
This is another restriction that is not needed. The catch rate is very small and the restriction is another way the fish and game department is covering its inability to manage a resource that is part of their responsibility. Other states have higher harvest rates with fewer restrictions and requirements. Lets learn from them instead of just restricting the outdoorsman paying extremely high prices in licensing fees.
LITZENBERGER, MARK A  October 27, 2015
TACOMA, WA  
Comments:
Against. I do not own a drift boat but have seen the difficulty in fishing some of these rivers effectively from the shore. Access can be limited. This is unneeded and should not be considered.
MELENDEZ, DON   October 27, 2015
SILVERDALE, WA  
Comments:
I don't support this in the least bit. Escapement is being met in most areas. The local economy will suffer along with people's (guides) financial stability.
AIRD, BRANDON R  October 27, 2015
GIG HARBOR, WA  
Comments:
1. Those rivers and local towns benefits greatly from the fishery. 2. Escapement is being exceeded on most of the systems. 3.This change would put many guides out of work or force them to move onto other rivers, which would not solve any issues. 4. Most of the guides participate heavily in the maintenance of the fisheries, so putting them out of work is not helpful to the overall health of the fisheries. 5. In addition, the tribes will not stop, so where is our 50% as mandated by the co-management plan? V/R SFC Brandon Aird 42nd Military Police Brigade JBLM
GAUTHIER, CHARLES M  October 27, 2015
BREMERTON, WA  
Comments:
This proposal is akin to far left versus far right. Surely someone with common sense can see through this and will put an end to it NOW.
HARDY, JIM   October 27, 2015
KIRKLAND, WA  
Comments:
Adamantly oppose this proposal. This would greatly reduce the fishing opportunity for people with limited mobility and handicaps! There are other ways to accomplish the same goals; make all waters catch and release, barbless hooks on all waters, restrict guide days or permits, etc. A proposal like this would focus the attention of those people that are able bodied enough to walk the river into certain locations. Private land already restricts access to many parts of our rivers. This would just decrease access to the resource and allow private landowners to profit from the resource thru access fees, while the people who fund the resource (license holders) are left out. This is a moronic proposal!!!!
PHEGLEY, CAYLEN M  October 27, 2015
PORT ANGELES , WA  
Comments:
I don't think fishing from a boat is doing nearly as much damage as the nets down at the mouths, I watched with my own eyes Indians scaring fish on purpose into them and keep as much as they want. We need to put some standards on the netting to save our fisherys. Cause we respect the fish and the fact we can fish for them any way we want. It's hard enough just paying for expenses to go fishing plus the liesenses please do something about the Indians fishing and hunting ways thank you
GIRTZ, TODD   October 27, 2015
LAKE TAPPS, WA  
Comments:
The bogachiel, calawh, clearwater, dickey, hoh, quillayute, solduc are all great rivers to float on drift boats, these rivers have very little access without the use of boats. And are the most popular drift boat rivers in the state There are so few boats in the salmon that there is no need for the rule. I strongly oppose closing these rivers to boats
CLUTTS, DAVID G  October 27, 2015
ABERDEEN, WA  
Comments:
I dont know so much about the intended purpose that fishing from floating device's hurt much anything . What I can tell you is that wasting your and out time arguing over certian streams as the Snahapish & Salmon River where no one ever could or would fish from a floating device as you call a boat . Are you people retarded or have you ever been to or seen these body's of water ? Quit wasting tax payers money on this and do your homework before wasting ink and making your self's look stupid again .
WILLIAMS, MARK   October 27, 2015
UNIVERSITY PLACE, WA  
Comments:
If in a boat ,they are not walking on the spawn beds , So the reasoning is not good in a common sense way .If you want people off the spawning grounds , Leave it open to boat only
WILLIS, CASEY   October 27, 2015
WOODINVILLE, WA  
Comments:
I would like to understand the science behind this. Floating a river can't possibly be high on the list of impacts to these fish. Selective gear and other measures seem more than adequate. Please do not ban floating these rivers.
BANNON, JACOB   October 27, 2015
PUYALLUP, WA  
Comments:
I've grown up fishing these rivers in a drift boat from the time i was a young boy. The sport of fishing Washington's coast has created new relationships with many and has shaped me to who i am today and I strongly stand against the rule proposals for many reasons. First off, just as many fish will be hooked from the beach as a boat. In today's modern technology and amount of fisherman, it's just a matter of finding a new technique which better accesses holding water. Also, the more times a boat has to drop a 30+ lb anchor to bank fish, the more it will harm ever so fragile redds in the shallow waters, not to mention anglers stepping on them to access good angles to fish their 'spot'. Secondly, economic revenue will plummet and guides will be out of business. Forks is known as the steelhead capital of the world for a reason. These fish need protection, no doubt about it. Limiting tribal harvest and banning the retention of wild fish would be far more beneficial.
BRAY, COREY   October 27, 2015
EDGEWOOD, WA  
Comments:
I think this is one of the most stupid proposals ever to come up. Many guides depend on this resource for income and not to mention the impact it would have on the local economy. There is limited bank access to these rivers and would make these rivers virtually unfishable.
DUNN, RON C  October 27, 2015
EDMONDS, WA  
Comments:
Please stop this farce rule change, brought to you by radical groups to stop most all sportsmanship access. The recourse and access to it belongs to all. Not to mention how are the guides on the coast supposed to survive. Not to mention the handicapped fisherman.
STRONG, ROBERT A  October 27, 2015
ORTING, WA  
Comments:
This proposal is a horrible idea, the fact that every person wading the river would end up trampling and destroying Salmon/Steelhead Spawning reds. Not to mention the safety concerns of people climbing in and out of boats and wading sections of river too dangerous to be wading. I highly oppose this idea, it doesn't make sense! Robert Strong
BOYER, MARK E  October 27, 2015
REDDING, CA  
Comments:
i cant believe this even a consideration . my friends and i have been coming to the Olympic rain forest for the past 28years fishing all the rivers your talking about ?? my friend is handicap and could not fish from bank. you have made it mostly catch and release barb less hooks and artificial bait and that is ok. please do not do this its going to take away the greatness of your rivers and also lively hoods of fishing guides lodging . does this mean that netting these rivers will stop also because us anglers are returning these fish to there waters
KING, RANDY L  October 27, 2015
EDMONDS, WA  
Comments:
I think it is a big mistake to follow thru with this proposal. Some of my fondest memories are floating and fishing the Clallam and Grays Harbor rivers. I vote NO!!!! I want my kids and grandchildren to enjoy this great experience.
REID, BOB L  October 27, 2015
TOLEDO, WA  
Comments:
This proposal is not consistence with the recommendations or the proposals that were given to WDFW at the October 15, 2015 Steelhead Cutthroat Policy Advisory Group (SCPAG) meeting by SCPAG's Select Committee (SC) Chair, who also participated in the NCSAG meetings and proposals. SCPAG is the states largest steelhead and cutthroat advisory group and represents most all of the major steelhead and sport fishing conservation groups in WA. This issue along with several others were brought up at the NCSAG special meetings, but was not passed on or agreed to by all members. SCPAG members represented about 50% of the NCSAG group membership, and the SCPAG's SC Chairs report to the SCPAG/WDFW should weigh heavily on any decision which WDFW may decide to move on or to recommend in the Sport fishing Rule Change period. This recommendation was not recommended to go forward by the SCPAG SC Chair, and special attention should be given to the Committee Chairs full report. Bob Reid CPR-Fish
TRAYLOR, DARRYL S  October 27, 2015
DUVALL, WA  
Comments:
This is a terrible idea, the sport fishing industry keeps taking the hit for the inability of the state to properly regulate commercial and native slaughter of the op rivers. I would push to put some regulations on the unregulated. Stop and look at where to greatest amount of revenue comes from. To the state and the local community's. The state shuts down the coho on the coast, I get it and comply at a great cost to me and my family. But to watch as the tribal fishing continues is not right. Learn to manage our assets. Look no further than to the great Kenai in Alaska and learn from their mistakes. Quit buying into special interests b.s. Darryl Traylor On the river guide service
JOHNSON, GARY   October 27, 2015
RAYMOND, WA  
Comments:
As a disabled person that fishes out of a boat this is limiting my fishing capabilities and locations. I have a hard time standing. Not happy about this proposal at all. A Washington native that sees less access and more limitations.
THOMPSON, JUSTIN   October 27, 2015
BONNEY LAKE, WA  
Comments:
How much money do fisherman and guides bring to these areas? Are you crazy with this proposal?
CARVER, CAR; R  October 27, 2015
AUBURN, WA  
Comments:
I do not want drift boats taken of the coastal rivers for many reasons. I enjoy my trips there with guides and get to go out with friends occasionally during the fall and spring months. You will also severely impact the town of Forks financially as the guide business as well as other boaters spend considerable money in the economy there. You've already impacted the sportsmen/women in so many ways with your restrictions and department overreach that it is truly a sad sad situation that is about to boil over. The tribes and commercials are killing our fisheries with nets and you go after the sportsmen. Who is pushing for this change and why? The fly fishermen/women? The tribes? The department with a trade off of some kind? We want answers and accountability from WDFW. I will repeat, if this proposed change gets inacted there will be outrage like you never seen. Sincerely, Carl & Irene Carver
SWARTZ, LARRY D  October 27, 2015
EDMONDS, WA  
Comments:
I do not agree with this proposal. I could see making certain portions of some of the listed rivers no fishing from the floating device but not the entire river. I think portions of the Hoh River above the 101 bridge, Bogachiel above the 101 bridge, and the Sol Duc from the salmon hatchery upstream would be acceptable as this is where most of the spawning sanctuary is located and is in need of reduced traffic. The Clearwater and Calawah Rivers have very little access to get out of a boat and fish so I do not agree with limiting this river. In addition there is limited boat ramps so this naturally reduces traffic. The other rivers (except the Quillayute) listed I would support the no fishing from a floating device.
ZEPP, JOSH J  October 27, 2015
ELMA, WA  
Comments:
It's sad enough how much we lose every year already with opportunitys to hunt and fish in wa state. What next? Maybe all boats and all rivers?? Maybe. I saw Indians going up queets last week in a jetsled while I was in a drift boat but that's OK in the park. I'm sad to think that when my son gets old enough we may not be able to do many things that I have got to do all my life. I'm not for this because once you lose something you lose more the next go around until there's nothing left. Let's be fair and have this advertised a little more for people so you get real opinion s from local people
MILLS, JOSH   October 27, 2015
SPOKANE, WA  
Comments:
I support this
JOHNSON, GREG W  October 27, 2015
FORKS, WA  
Comments:
This is absolutely ridiculous rule. I would like for you to explain to me what this is going to accomplish besides putting local guides in the Forks area out of work. Are you going to supplement their income? I am not a guide just a passionate sports fisherman that spends a lot of money per year to fish. How about you purchasing my $10,000 Willie Drift boat or my $2,500 Catchercraft Pontoon boat both of which you will have made absolutely useless with this completely unacceptable rule. How about all of the lost income for Forks. Oh thats right you live in Olympia this won't effect you, but you can say look I am a new Director that posts yourself with a picture of a fish and say you are pro fishing. Actions speak louder than words. Greg Johnson, Forks, Washington
STEFFEN, ERIC   October 27, 2015
FORKS, WA  
Comments:
I don't think this proposal is based on anything other than a special interest group using conservation as an excuse to further their agenda. I live in Forks and have fished the listed rivers for twenty years and the majority of spawning beds I see are located in shallow riffles and tailouts, both of which are areas typically targeted by shore based fly fishermen, not boat anglers. I also feel that if we are really interested in protecting spawning fish, we should be considering shutting down all fishing in areas known to have spawning fish. I am 100% against this rule change.
ZAGARIYA, SERGEY   October 27, 2015
VANCOUVER, WA  
Comments:
WHo comes up with this feel good, liberalized solution to protecting spawning salmon? Has anyone though of the fact that this rule, as stupid as it is, would do nothing to curtail salmon fishing from a boat, instead people will be getting out of their boats, walking all over redds, destroying said redds, causing more damage in reality than if they where allowed to fish from the boats? ANYONE???? Hey WDFW wake up, you are cutting fishing opportunities for recreational sportsmen each and every season, little by little until fishing will be outlawed...Has there been a spike in salmon and steelhead recovery due to the barbless hook rule you do gooders implemented few years back? I didnt think so...DId it bring a bunch of revenue via fines? Absolutely.... when will you guys stop restricting fishing more and more????? I am disgusted this is even being brought up on a possible future vote.... THis is dumb and stupid and rediculuous.. Sergey Zagariya
MICKELSON, RYAN P  October 27, 2015
HUMPTULIPS, WA  
Comments:
This proposal will not protect the salmon. Having earned my bachelor's of science in biology, I can tell you how to bring back the salmon. STOP THE NETTING. Simple as that. If we could stop the Indians from netting the mouths of every river for 10 years, stocks would increase ten-fold, or more. Stop increasing regulations on the white man who takes very little salmon from the river, and regulate the nets who take massive numbers every day. Thank you, Ryan Mickelson, B.S.
HOESLEY, AUSTIN   October 27, 2015
SEATTLE, WA  
Comments:
If this rule change passes it hurts Washington. This hurts the guides who have dedicated their lives and careers to working with these runs of fish.The economies of the coastal towns take huge hits with deceased adventure tourism provided by guided fishing. These rule changes take the eyes, ears, and voices of the rivers off the rivers. These rules would increase foot traffic to the streams increasing habitat and stream bed degradation. For fishers like myself this reduces the river systems and economies I'm able to visit, support, and enjoy by removing my ability to recreate by navigating these waters. These rivers have been the life blood of Washington's many people's for ten thousand years. I'm not willing to give up being a steward and voice for these rivers, their fish, and the people who live from them. These rule changes are viewed by the fishing communities as test runs to close these and other systems in our state to fishing, while our licence fees increase along with closures
ALLEN, JOSHUA L  October 27, 2015
SEATTLE, WA  
Comments:
I would like to request specific and detail reasoning (or concrete evidence) which demonstrates that fishing from a floating device increases the odds of mortality on adult salmon and steelhead. As a long time salmon and steelhead angler who is concerned with conservation of salmonid, I'm opposed to this proposal. If anything, this measure will only serve to concentrate fishing pressure on those holes/runs where angling techniques from the bank are optimal and most effective. Please, let us be more creative and mindful in our collaborative efforts to think through conservation measures to ensure that salmon and steelhead will continue to return to our waterways for years to come, without placing the brunt of the sacrifice/burden on sport fisherman.
ABRAHAMS, DAVID   October 28, 2015
FORKS, WA  
Comments:
This rule will have an incredibly detrimental effect on the economy of the North Olympic Peninsula while having minimal impact on the Salmon runs. The elephant in the room is the netting that occurs throughout the Quilayute rice and in the lower bogachiel. Until that netting is stopped there will be no long term recovery for salmon.
CAROSSINO, JOSIAH D  October 28, 2015
COSMOPOLIS, WA  
Comments:
This is a bad idea closing the rivers to floating devices. There is a whole community dependant on river guiding services in these waters. Not to mention, if you close it, you'll have a hard time reopening it.
WALLACE, THOMAS M  October 28, 2015
SHORELINE, WA  
Comments:
I strongly appose this proposal. It is being pushed through to segregate fishing opportunity, primarily by fly fishermen who prefer to fish from the bank and are offended by boats fishing the same water. It dont believe it will help fish as more wading in the rivers will impact the redds more than boats passing over them.
FAULK, MICKY D  October 28, 2015
RAINIER, WA  
Comments:
I am strongly opposed to this proposal! There are other ways to refuse handling and mortality than imposing this. There are families dependent on the income from guides on these rivers along with the occasional recreational fisherman who enjoys the beauty of floating down these beautiful streams and sharing it with there children. This would be an injustice to the outdoorsman should this happen.
OWENS, MARY   October 28, 2015
ELMA, WA  
Comments:
What do you consider a "floating device"?? Does this include all fishermen or just non natives? I think this is just to keep people from catching fish. Do you have proof that this will help stress and mortality? More rules and regulations from our liberal government.
ERNST, JAXON C  October 28, 2015
PORT ANGELES, WA  
Comments:
I strongly oppose the Proposal to not allow floating on the previously described waterways. I am a land owner and a voter. Regards, Jaxon
LALONDE, EDWARD J  October 28, 2015
SEATTLE, WA  
Comments:
As a native Washington resident who has grown up fishing for salmon and steelhead and one who fishes several of the rivers listed, I DO NOT support this proposal. I do not see how this action would directly impact wild steelhead populations returning to these rivers, except that it may discourage some anglers from fishing. A couple of potential downsides: 1. concentrate anglers in certain holes making for more crowding and less pleasureful fishing experience. 2. encourage wading across/ up/ down river through spawning beds 3. less care given when releasing wild steelhead and salmon- not using net, anglers often drag fish onto shore, even when releasing (very common practice I have witnessed over and over) 4. drastic impact to sportsfishing economies in these areas 5. drastic impact to guides working these rivers
STALLARD, DANNY W  October 28, 2015
HUMPTULIPS, WA  
Comments:
I am 69 years old. I can't walk on gravel bars anymore. How are handicapped people going to enjoy fishing the Olympic peninsula. This proposal is ridiculous. It discriminates against a lot of people. Looks like a court case is coming if this proposal goes though. Danny Stallard
DOOLITTLE, BRIAN   October 28, 2015
PORT ANGELES, WA  
Comments:
I don't believe this is a good thing, either your banning boats all together or fisherman will be in and out of there boats constantly, which would do more damage to banks, more litter, and really we already monitor numbers. This won't help. I am frustrated you are even considering it.
HOLMSTROM, TOD A  October 28, 2015
ELMA, WA  
Comments:
This shouldn't even be a consideration ! I Have floated these rivers for years with my father and 3 boys, kept very few fish. It's the adventure and drifting in a boat fishing is a super way to raise kids in a wild land/water ! Please don't take it away ! Tod
AHMANN, DOUG D  October 28, 2015
PORT ANGELES, WA  
Comments:
I would not recommend adoption of the proposed Rule 46. First of all, relatively few fish are hooked and landed which are not kept. Fishermen are generally conscious of the importance of gentle handling of the fish that are released. I think there are many fishermen like me who have limited time available to fish the coastal rivers, and to be limited to only bank fishing would drop our success rate to near zero. The use continued use of floating devices would not significantly affect the mortality of the fish, and will provide the only reasonable chance of catching a steelhead.
LEWIS, TIM S  October 28, 2015
EDMONDS, WA  
Comments:
I support the idea of no fishing from a boat on the list of Olympic Penninsula rivers during the winter steelhead season (December - April). Boats for transportation only during winter steelhead season. CATCH and RELEASE all wild steelhead
LOFTEN, CRAIG   October 28, 2015
UNIVERSITY PLACE, WA  
Comments:
Due to the unfortunate state of and subsequent closure of Puget Sound rivers for angling opportunities during late winter and spring, Olympic Peninsula rivers have been subjected to an exponential increase in angler rod hours, due to their open and relatively healthy runs of hatchery and unmarked winter steelhead. I believe the proposed rule change of 'prohibiting angling from floating devices' allows for a more sporting experience, but more importantly prevents fishing directly above spawning steelhead and salmon. This proposed rule is not new in North America - having been implemented in British Columbia as a way to provide a high-quality angling experience while simultaneously conserving fish spawning success. I additionally support bait restriction in North Coastal Olympic Peninsula rivers on a year-round basis, however believe limiting angling from floating devices, a more immediate and precise measure to conserve anadromous fish populations on the Olympic Peninsula.
MCGOVNEY JR, MICHAEL L  October 28, 2015
ANCHORAGE , AK  
Comments:
I don't think that this does any good other than take people off the river that can't fish. I spend most of my time down there on foot yet I'm still against these changes its a bandage that will do very little to help these runs if anything. This is not the problem these rivers will continue to see decline until the in river gills nets are addressed I've been on the hoh and watched them net boat fulls of hatchery and wild fish. I personally think money should be raised to pay the Indians not to fish each year bringing in money to the tribes so they don't net and renegotiate with them each year so they would not feel they are not in a power position. I bet if that happened runs would explode in just a few years.
EWING, SETH J  October 28, 2015
TACOMA, WA  
Comments:
Just wondering do any of you that propose these ideas have any idea about any of the stuff you propose? The rivers you have listed there are very few areas to get out & fish from the bank to begin with. Seriously what do you think this will do to gain for the fishery? Do will the tribes net from the bank only? So if you are going to propose this hilarious idea are you going to propose 10' max rod length as well. All I can say is try to use what common sense you might have and junk this.
GARDINER, ROBERT E  October 28, 2015
MONTESANO, WA  
Comments:
This is an unfair proposal by a small portion of the user group. We try to expose new anglers to our sport like women and children to pass on a tradition passed on to us. With this rule change it will make it harder for new and younger anglers to be successful and keep interest in the sport. I enjoy taking my wife and children fishing and would hate to make them fish from the bank with everyone else floating down the river. This is why we bought drift boats to begin with.
BABCOCK , JIM   October 28, 2015
HOQUIAM , WA  
Comments:
This proposal is ridiculous. Perhaps the only ones that are even conceivable for thought are the salmon river and snahapish river. The others are fished by boats because there is no other access and the majority of license buying fishermen fish these waters by boats. It make no sense to remove harmless row boats. I believe that this proposal is brought up by fly fishing anglers that only account for about 5 percent of the sportfishing on these rivers in question .
WILSON, KRIS   October 28, 2015
ABERDEEN, WA  
Comments:
I would support such a proposal. Give fish sanctuary water and stop the boat parade. The experience of chasing these fish has been degraded to such a degree something must be done. I would however have suggestions on augmenting the list of rivers and for which portions of the year.
FONG, JEFFREY   October 29, 2015
STEILACOOM, WA  
Comments:
First, these proposed rules do not specify what portions of these rivers would be off limits. Second, where are the data in support of this rule change? If you propose a ban on fishing from a boat, then it would be logical to prohibit any fishing, whether it be from a raft, inner tube or on the bank. Gear or bait or with your bear hands (pun intended).
SUPERFISKY, JOSEPH L  October 29, 2015
ABERDEEN, WA  
Comments:
This proposal is obviously written by a very small group of faggot ass fly fisherman who are trying to take over every stream around and change the rules to how they want them ! I make my living fishing out of my boat on several of these rivers and if you are going to let a small group of premadonnas change the rules that would take food off of my table just so that they don't have to deal with any driftboats while they whip there ferry wands around while wearing there 5000.00 padagucci outfits and telling eachother how cool they are then I will personally start a fishing revolution in this state.This rule is selfish, self centered and aimed at trying to keep a large number of people from using the resource, and for another thing there is very little to no foot access on the queets and Clearwater rivers so right there it just goes to show there lack of knowledge on these pieces of water,do not change the rules and stop letting a very small few try to tell us how to fish.. FUCK THEM !
CARSON, JAKE L  October 29, 2015
KENNEWICK, WA  
Comments:
Bout damn time! Let's get these passed and allow wild steelhead a chance to not go extinct.
FRESHLEY, MARK D  October 29, 2015
KENNEWICK, WA  
Comments:
I support no fishing from boats on the Olympic Peninsula. At times, it's a constant stream of gear and fly fishermen in boats tossing gear and flies. I've fished the Deschutes River in Oregon for years under these same rules and it greatly improves the fishing experience and will help reduce pressure on endangered fish.
DARNELL, MIKE R  October 29, 2015
TUMWATER, WS  
Comments:
I think that would be completely foolish if this purposal went through. I have been floating those rivers for years and have seen great numbers of fish that weren't harassed by a "floating device". I vote no.
CLINE, WAYNE W  October 29, 2015
MOUNT VERNON, WA  
Comments:
I have fished in rivers with this regulation and can say that with the exception of handicapped anglers it works. The one thing that could make it more reasonable would be for WDFW to acquire/develop more bank access.
JOHNSON, CHRIS   October 29, 2015
BELLINGHAM, WA  
Comments:
I am in support of this proposal in it's entirety.
LISKE, ELIJAH J  October 29, 2015
BUCKLEY, WA  
Comments:
I completely oppose this rule change. This would cause an enormous economic issue in the Forks area. Angler come from all over the country to go on guided fishing trips in these rivers. It would be wiser to implement more education on the importance of barbless hooks & safe fish handling when the wrong or a native fish is caught. I say NO to this. These rivers are just too beautiful & rustic not to float.
AINSWORTH , MIKE J  October 29, 2015
CARNATION , WA  
Comments:
I am full time fishing guide here in WA state, primarily on the Humptulips in the fall and winter months.The Humptulips is not conducive to just fishing from the shore,like the Hoh river. Implementing this law would only further harm the number people who make their living fishing this river.I'm getting tired of all of the band aid solutions that people keep trying to come up with to fix the number of fish return, when it is so apparent what needs to be done to help the fish! Stop gillnetting endangered Salmon and wild steelhead! It is the true definition of insanity! Gillnetting kills an already fragile resource,that is protected under federal law. Once again another law to dance around what really needs to be done to protect fish stalks.I would be more than willing to make all rivers catch and release if the tribes would stop gillnetting, because I actually care about fish numbers! Thanks,Mike Ainsworth of First Light Guide Service
ARONIAN, JOHN M  October 29, 2015
YORKTOWN HEIGHTS, NY  
Comments:
If memory serves me properly, the Hoh is one of the most well protected fisheries and may well be the most productive of the 3 'Forks area' rivers. I do not know how long a stretch of water is being considered as 'no platform' fishing BUT if it removed no more than 25% of the open water I would support it as a trial effort. One assumes that it would increase escapement, injury and fish killed. IF the release of all wild fish is initiated I am not sure if this restriction would have much impact.
CAROLAN, DANIEL M  October 29, 2015
NORTH LOGAN, UT  
Comments:
As an avid angler, environmentalist, former PNW resident, and visitor to your great state, I am in favor of limiting fishing from boats for steelhead, making it tougher for anglers to fish every square inch of water, giving spawning trout more refuge in the water.
GAWESWORTH, SIMON   October 29, 2015
BATTLE GROUND, WA  
Comments:
To whom it may concern, As angling pressure continues to mount, and steelhead runs continue to decline, it would appear obvious that certain restrictions need to be imposed on rivers. As a recreational angler, I am asking you to support Rule #46 by instituting a "no fishing from boat" rule from Olympic National Park boundary downstream to the WDFW boat launch at Morgan’s Crossing in the upper Hoh River. This will result in a reduction in boat traffic, which in return will allow for less fish disturbance and angling pressure in this section. It would be a great test case study for future such changes. Yours sincerely, Simon Gawesworth
LILLEY, CHARLES   October 29, 2015
RENO, NE  
Comments:
The time has come to adopt regulations on portions of a river where fish can escape, rest, and eventually live to spawn. I support the prohibition of fishing from a floating device, and think it is long past due.
WOODS, WILLIAM M  October 29, 2015
SEATTLE, WA  
Comments:
I recommend that the State institute a no fishing from boat rule from Olympic National Park boundary downstream to the WDFW boat launch at Morgan’s Crossing in the upper Hoh River. Also, I'm seeing increasing evidence of poaching on and near the Clearwater. While there aren't many fish remaining in this river, I would like to see greater enforcement efforts.
HAUFLER, JAMES   October 29, 2015
LINCOLN, CA  
Comments:
This is a sensible proposal that will level the playing field between Steelhead and fishermen. It will also reduce the risk of conflicts among fishermen who are often vying for the same "hot spots" along the river.
DUDEK, PAUL H  October 29, 2015
AUBURNDALE, MA  
Comments:
I recommend that this proposal not be adopted
HUGHES, LAUREL J  October 29, 2015
EDMONDS, WA  
Comments:
Support Rule #46 by specifically suggesting that they institute a no fishing from boat rule from Olympic National Park boundary downstream to the WDFW boat launch at Morgan’s Crossing in the upper Hoh River.
HILBERT, HARRISON S  October 29, 2015
POCATELLO, ID  
Comments:
Implement "no fishing from a floating devise" on selected North Coast stream sections, especially the upper Hoh River. Anglers can cover most of those stream sections with improved angling techniques, wading, & gear. Fish need access to sanctuaries free of angling pressure. This requirement worked on Montana's Madison River, & it could help escapement of wild & threatened species on select North Coast streams.
AJARI, LESLIE L  October 29, 2015
TAHOE CITY, CA  
Comments:
This is a great new addition to the regulations. I really hope this one goes through. Fishing from the boat has been a huge problem for years on the OP as the number of fish that are caught flossing beads from the boat is huge. This will help lower the number of hookups on fish that are already being caught multiple times. I am 100% in full support of this rule.
CALL, STEVE   October 29, 2015
BELLEVUE, WA  
Comments:
I strongly support restrictions on fishing from boats on the entire Hoh River. Those restrictions have proven successful on the Deschutes in Oregon. They can work on the Hoh, upper Sol Duc and upper Bogachiel.
LARSON, PETER J  October 29, 2015
CLIVE, IA  
Comments:
I strongly agree with the proposal to institute a no fishing from boat rule from Olympic National Park boundary downstream to the WDFW boat launch at Morgan’s Crossing in the upper Hoh River. The vast majority of steelhead on the OP are caught by anglers in boats and the advent of rafts - both large and small - and improved fishing techniques means that there are very few places where steelhead cannot be caught by anglers. Restrictions on boat fishing are likely to become increasingly necessary if angling pressure continues to mount and steelhead runs continue to decline. The short reach in the Upper Hoh provides an opportunity to experiment with the rule and see how anglers respond.
STAUB, LANC S  October 29, 2015
SEQUIM, WA  
Comments:
Restrict fishing from boats. Must be out of the boat to have line in water.
FLAKE, ALAN W  October 29, 2015
BRYN MAWR, PE  
Comments:
I support limits on boat fishing in the Olympic National Park boundary downstream to the WDFW boat launch at Morgan’s Crossing in the upper Hoh River.
STURROCK, TYLER A  October 29, 2015
SNOHOMISH, WA  
Comments:
The parade of boats fishing the OP has gotten out of hand. Please give the fish a better chance for survival. Fishing from a boat is a cheap and lazy way of fishing in my opinion. Make the fisherman earn the fish. Get out the boat and fish! - Voice of the Fish
FITZSIMMONS, WILLIAM   October 29, 2015
PORT ANGELES, WA  
Comments:
While I am certain that "the Guides" will squeal at the mention of this proposal I find it unbelievable, given the health of current runs, that fishing from a boat is allowed for anyone who is not physically unable to fish any other way. Any watershed fortunate enough to still support a population of wild steelhead should not be subjected to the abuse that results when fishing from a floating device is allowed.
YOUNG, BOB   October 29, 2015
WASHOUGAL, WA  
Comments:
If this is a trial to ascertain the efficacy of not allowing fishing from boats before a wider application of the trial then I support it, provided the primary focus is on halting the decline of numbers of fish, rather than just stopping floating device fishing. I also wonder if not fishing from a floating device will increase damage to the river banks, beaches, and water bottom from wading people rather than a less damaging boat trip.
SPAULDING, JEFF P  October 29, 2015
ORONO, ME  
Comments:
I support Rule #46 and the institution of a no fishing from boat rule from Olympic National Park boundary downstream to the WDFW boat launch at Morgan’s Crossing in the upper Hoh River.
SAVAGLIO, BRUCE   October 29, 2015
SEQUIM, WA  
Comments:
Agree. Should be all anglers and netters.
O'BRIEN, STEPHEN   October 29, 2015
SAN RAMON, CA  
Comments:
We need to do everything possible to protect these fish from over fishing. Adopting this rule will go a long way towards protecting this precious resource.
ANDRUSS, DAVID R  October 29, 2015
RICHLAND, OR  
Comments:
Eliminating fishing from a boat to protect steelhead runs and increase sportsmanship on the OP is a terrific proposal. It has worked incredibly well on the very crowded Deschutes R in Oregon, for example. "Side drifting" from a boat has proven to be a deadly tactic and is favored by guides because it's easy. To call it "fly fishing" is laughable. While fishing the Klickitat R several years ago I have never seen such rude behavior by boaters using this technique. A dozen times or more we as swing fly fishermen wading that small river had our gear driven over by fishing boaters. No attempt to remove their gear from the water. They would look the other way as they floated through. Talk about potential conflict. I will never return to that river unless the rules are changed. Eliminating fishing from a boat puts all anglers on an even footing and protects against over harvest of steelhead. Even the guides have learned to live with it on the Deschutes.
VOIGT, ALAN R  October 29, 2015
SAN ANSELMO, CA  
Comments:
Please adopt this new regulation. Thank you.
GILDENHAR, MARK   October 29, 2015
LAKEWOOD , WA  
Comments:
I think a no fishing from boats rule rule be tried on the upper Hoh river as a way to give the wild fish a better chance of survival. It also may give anglers who cannot afford a boat a better chance to catch a fish. I have seen and experienced firsthand the advantage one has when fishing from a boat. Restricting fishing from a boat has worked very effectively in maintaining a strong steelhead and rainbow trout fishery on the Deschutes River in Oregon.
HUNTINGTON, GLEN P  October 29, 2015
REDMOND, WA  
Comments:
The techniques employed by those fishing from boats are simply too effective to be sustainable. I strongly support a ban on fishing from boats on the Hoh river between the National Park boundary and Morgans Crossing. The no fishing from boats rule has been very effective on Oregon's Deschutes River - the proposed Hoh rule change would provide equal opportunity for all anglers together with enhanced protection for wild steelhead.
SMITH, 0LIVER H  October 29, 2015
TROUT LAKE, WA  
Comments:
I support the proposed rule prohibiting fishing from a floating device on the upper Hoh.
MADISON, CHRIS   October 29, 2015
ROLLINGBAY, WA  
Comments:
Lets at least experiment with this idea by banning fishing from a boat on the upper Hoh River . Good access is available to foot anglers on this stretch of river. Thank you. Chris Madison
WOLDSETH, DANE M  October 29, 2015
BELLEVUE, WA  
Comments:
I do not support any proposal to limit fishing from boats unless additional bank access is made available to anglers.
RONDEAU, VERN   October 29, 2015
FORKS, WA  
Comments:
To restrict fishing from floating devices will cripple the fisheries on these rivers. Our economy in forks is now tourism driven and limiting the available fishable streams will drastically decrease tourism to the area. Also, much of the spawning grounds are still accessible, I'd not more accessible from the bank given the shallow gravel salmon and steelhead typically have. This will also prevent safe handling of fish as they will inevitably be dragged up onto the shore and handles more than when appropriately netted in a boat. More important than how we fish these rivers is how the fish are handled. Teach and push safe fish handling and don't arbitrarily limit fishing access. On a final not emuch of the upper river systems are not navicable in boats but yield the highest quality and most prolific spawning habitat. If the intent is to decrease pressure eon spawning fish fishing the lower stretches of these rivers from a boat will not impact the fish like other restrictions might
DOWLING, QUINTON M  October 29, 2015
SEATTLE, WA  
Comments:
Limiting fishing from floating devices has proved successful for the Deschutes River, another heavily fished salmon and steelhead river. Exploring similar limitations in Olympic Peninsula Rivers that are seeing an ever increasing influx of anglers is warranted to provide data on all management options. I fully support this proposal.
BENITEZ, RON   October 29, 2015
CHATHAM, NJ  
Comments:
Agree with this-- a sensible appraoch that deserves a trial at how it affects the fish.
CLARK, GARY D  October 29, 2015
BELLINGHAM, WA  
Comments:
# 46. Please adopt "no fishing from floating device" rules on the selected streams!! This provides much needed santuary water for for our salmonids!! Also makes it fair for all anglers and having two feet on the ground!! This should also be state wide except for the very large streams..
WILLIAMS , DOUGLAS H  October 29, 2015
CAMANO ISLAND, WA  
Comments:
While I disagree with this rule proposal as written, I do agree with Shutting down Rivers when the situation dictates. To shut a river down preemptively is a total disregard for the fisherman and the sportsman who's money bleeds life blood into the program
THOMPSON, CARL   October 29, 2015
FORKS, WA  
Comments:
This is an absolute horrible idea. Half of the rivers we fish are impossible to fish any other way than from a boat. Why limit us and our access/success when you let the indians drag nets with powerboats across the whole river. I've paid my fishing license dues for many years to support our fisheries and future. THis is not the way to repay that
BIALOUS, ROGER P  October 29, 2015
SEATTLE, WA  
Comments:
I think this is an important rule, even though it is just a pilot program on a small section of river. I think it is a good thing to have places in the river where it is difficult or impossible to target the fish. Our wild steelhead and salmon populations are in or near crisis, depending on your point of view. We need to help them get to the spawning grounds and perpetuate our wild stocks. I think with this rule and the other rules proposed, we can help the wild fish enough while preserving a sport fishery and hatchery fish harvest.
ANACKER, TOM R  October 29, 2015
BOZEMAN, MT  
Comments:
I support WDFW instituting a restriction on fishing from floating devices on the Hoh River from the Olympic Park boundary to the boat launch at Morgan's Crossing on a trial basis. The restriction should increase population numbers as it will reduce hooking mortality and other handling stresses. The impact of the restriction can be monitored to determine if it is effective in improving recovery of wild steelhead stocks and if it is appropriate for other OP rivers. Thank you.
REYNOLDS, DOUGLAS   October 29, 2015
VANCOUVER, WA  
Comments:
I would ask WDFW to experiment with a "no fishing from floating device" rule in the upper Hoh River from Olympic National Park boundary downstream to the WDFW boat launch at Morgan’s Crossing. The vast majority of steelhead on the OP are caught by anglers in boats and the advent of rafts - both large and small - and improved fishing techniques means that there are very few places where steelhead cannot be caught by anglers. While anglers could not fish from a boat in this reach of the Hoh under the proposed rule, they could still use boats for transportation. Restrictions on boat fishing are likely to become increasingly necessary if angling pressure continues to mount and steelhead runs continue to decline. The short reach in the Upper Hoh provides an opportunity to experiment with the rule and see how anglers respond. Among those with whom I fish, the reaction would be very positive!
MORRISON, DON R  October 29, 2015
SPOKANE, WA  
Comments:
Restrict boat fishing, give the fish a break, if you can't cast that far too bad.
MAHONY, PAT   October 29, 2015
BAINBRIDGE, WA  
Comments:
I fully support the "No fishing from a floating device" rule. This would greatly cut down on the out of control crowds on the coastal rivers, and give the Wild Steelhead more of a break. It would also IMHO, cut down on the out of state guides that are Overrunning these fragile Steelhead rivers.
MILLER, STEPHEN P  October 29, 2015
SAMMAMISH, WA  
Comments:
I doubt this proposal will pass as worded because there are too many anglers who catch too many fish from boats. Instead, I would agree with the suggestion of Wild Steelheaders United (I'm a member) to take an experimental approach starting with the Upper Hoh.
THYER, DAVID G  October 29, 2015
SEATTLE, WA  
Comments:
Steps need to be taken to alleviate angling pressure on these rivers (and sections or rivers). It's pretty simple, you need to reduce the number of times that these fish are caught even if they are released. Mortality is just a simple reality of catch and release. Fish handling methods and landing techniques also need to be improved. A responsibility we all have as anglers no matter what our gear and fishing methods are. This measure is just another small but positive step along the "right path" for wild steelhead management.
MATHIESEN, MICHAEL   October 29, 2015
MARYSVILLE, WA  
Comments:
It's time to limit fishing from boats as it will end the constant pressure on the depleted steelhead runs.
CASEY, JIM   October 29, 2015
ANACORTES, WA  
Comments:
Please support rule change #46! Washington's OP is a treasure. Generations before have gone to great lengths to secure and protect habitat. Let us take care of the fish. Similar restrictions exist on the Deschutes river in OR. Sport fishing still thrives.
BURGE, RICHARD T  October 29, 2015
QUILCENE, WA  
Comments:
This change is a must if we are going to save wild steelhead on the coast. By late March many steelhead begin holding and spawning in up river areas. Realisticalyy these areas should be closed March 1 but restricting boat use in these ares will be helpful. Some guides and sport anglers recognizes these areas and fish them hard--catching upwards of 10 to 20 fish each day. In this phase, the stress puts increased amounts of cortisol in their blood system that bathes the eggs. When over stressed, fish may loose 50 to 60% or more of their fry. Fishing on holding/spawning fish may be responsibele for the major decline in productivity that has been seen in all coastal rivers. These boat closures should pass!
LUTHANEN, JON   October 29, 2015
BELLINGHAM, WA  
Comments:
The Hoh River gets hit hard both from the banks, but mostly by boat all winter long. I've fished it several times via walking and wading, and there is no doubt it is a gorgeous and attractive fishery. If putting less pressure on the fish by disallowing fishing from floating craft allows for this to continue, I am in full support of this rule change. Seems like this measure would make things more sporting
BARTON, KEN   October 29, 2015
SYLMAR, CA  
Comments:
Please adopt no fishing from floating devices for the above streams.
CAMPBELL, TRAVIS   October 29, 2015
BAINBRIDGE ISLAND, WA  
Comments:
I am in favor of testing the rule that eliminates fishing from a floating device. I believe this could be a sensible way to spread out angling pressure and also to reduce impacts on the resource. I have fished the Deschutes in Oregon many times and I believe this regulation has helped the Deschutes maintain the quality of the fishery and the overall angling experience for users.
SMITH, MARK T  October 29, 2015
RICHLAND, WA  
Comments:
I strongly support the ban on fishing from floating devices. The overwhelming number of guides fishing clients and private boaters fishing from boats has destroyed the opportunities for bank fishing. Look at the success of the ban on the Deschutes river. Nearly all agree it enhances the sport fishery. Allowing fishing from boats is just another concession to the guides and their aggressive tactics. At the very least an experimental ban on fishing from floating devices should be implemented on selective sections of the OP rivers.
SANDERS, JOHN   October 29, 2015
KIRKLAND, WA  
Comments:
I totally agree with this proposal!
NELSON, RUSSELL E  October 29, 2015
SAMMAMISH, WA  
Comments:
I am supportive of this test on the upper Hoh River. Generally I would not support restricting fishing from a boat on the North Coast Rivers but do not believe allowing this rule to be adopted to test this idea on the upper Hoh will hinder fishing opportunities on the other river systems. If the results are properly evaluated, then an informed decision on their applications to other systems or parts of other systems can be made.
BRAMLEY, WILLIAM   October 29, 2015
SAN DIEGO, CA  
Comments:
Please support Rule #46 by instituting a no fishing from boat rule from Olympic National Park boundary downstream to the WDFW boat launch at Morgan’s Crossing in the upper Hoh River.
BARNIER, DAVID   October 29, 2015
PT.ANGELES, WA  
Comments:
ridiculous proposal, I do not support it.
KERST, DUNCAN   October 29, 2015
PORTLAND , OR  
Comments:
Please institute a no fishing from boat rule from Olympic National Park boundary downstream to the WDFW boat launch at Morgan’s Crossing in the upper Hoh River.
BOWDEN, BRIAN E  October 29, 2015
CAMANO ISLAND, WA  
Comments:
I agree with the proposed rule. please adopt this measure
KING, MIKE & FAITH   October 29, 2015
PHOENIX, AR  
Comments:
Please prohibit fishing from a boat on all OP streams. We live with this rule on Oregon's Deschutes river, and are convinced it leads to more and healthier fish populations. Thank you, Mike & Faith King
WALKER, RICHARD R  October 29, 2015
CHEHALIS, WA  
Comments:
I think it's a great proposal. It will allow for "sanctuary" water and level the playing field for the variety of anglers out there. In some rivers where the catch rates approach the run size (Sol Duc) this would be immensely beneficial to the fish. I would like to add the Wynoochie and Satsop to the list. My hope is that it would minimize jet boats effectiveness and discourage "low-holing" fishing.
DZIEDZIC, THADDEUS J  October 29, 2015
HOFFMAN ESTATES, IL  
Comments:
I agree and support implementing "no fishing from a floating device" rules on select North Coast streams to protect holding and spawning adult Salmon and Steelhead through reduced hooking/handling stress and mortality.
UTTER, MARK   October 29, 2015
SAN DIEGO, CA  
Comments:
I am in favor of the proposed regulations to eliminate fishing from floating devices.
BAXTER, MIKE   October 29, 2015
SANTA CRUZ, CA  
Comments:
I visit the Olympic Peninsula every year in March and have done so for 14 years. I LOVE this place its rivers people and fish! I spend lots of money abide all laws and release all fish caught (I dont catch many) I appreciate the concern for native steelhead and support the issue. I like the law to keep fish in the water, I beleive the baitless and barbless laws help motality and am an advocate to all catch and release of native fish. Maybe setting a bait restriction in all areas would help? Maybe a limited number of Guide boats would reduce pressure? I know it is a mute point but it breaks my heart to see these fish caught by native nets!!!
HARRIS, TIM   October 29, 2015
FALL CITY, WA  
Comments:
I would support a no fishing from a boat proposal. This works on the Deschutes River in OR and that is an excellent fishery for steelhead. If this cannot be passed for all rivers at least try it out on a river or two and see how it works then maybe the program could expand to all rivers in the area.
HAYNES-HERRERA, FRANCES   October 29, 2015
GOLD BAR, WA  
Comments:
I am requesting the Fish and wildlife keep and continue to keep Catch and Release for All steelhead and Trout a catch and release only in Olympic rivers. Thank you DFW 123891-16 DFW862512-16 DFW912892-16 DFW 026686-16 All fish in this area must have a chance to flourish
LELL, JOHN   October 29, 2015
SEATTLE, WA  
Comments:
Prohibiting fishing from a floating device will certainly diminish the number of fish hooked and caught. Although this rule sounds Draconian, it has been in effect for years on the Sandy River in Oregon. While it is an inconvenience, I'm not sure that it benefited the resource much. It is still quite possible to catch Steelhead on the Sandy. I'm not certain that this is a merit worthy solution to the problem. As regards the use of motor boats on the OP Rivers, this is a good idea. In fact, I thought such a rule was already in effect. Or are there so few jet boats on these rivers because so many of them experience flat tires on their boat trailers!
BROCKERMAN, JACOB A  October 29, 2015
EVERETT, WA  
Comments:
The rational for this proposal is good and I support this proposal. I also think this could be extended to Puget Sound rivers.
CAREY, JASON   October 29, 2015
SEABECK, WA  
Comments:
I'm afraid this proposal won't help protect the fish. If you want to protect the fish then commercial & native netting need to be drastically reduced. 95 percent of the anglers that float these rivers care & respect the fish. We do our best to not harm the fish in any manner before releasing them. I've floated these rivers for the last 30 years and is my passion as well as my family's passion.
SMOKE, MICHAEL   October 29, 2015
KETTLE FALLS, WA  
Comments:
No fishing from a boat rule on the Hoh River from the ONP boundary to the WDFW launch at Morgan's Crossing would give WDFW something to base possible further restrictions off of. This would be a good place to do a trial run and see how well it works for anglers, enforcement, and fish populations.
CAREY, KALUB J  October 29, 2015
BELLINGHAM, WA  
Comments:
I have been fishing the coastal rivers with my family for over 20 years. This is our past time, as it is many to many other families. I understand where the proposal is coming from, but I don't understand the severity. I know for a fact that the traffic on the coastal rivers isn't as dangerous to the fish and their habitat than how they are treated commercially. Gill nets are another large killer of this species. So why regulate the little man in the situation? My argument is that rules that have been implemented for hundreds of years can't just be flipped on their side or thrown in the trash. You don't change the length of a baseball game because their aren't as many attendes as their used to be, because it's tradition. And that's what would be taken from many families, tradition, something they do together and have done together for years. So I am against this proposal for that matter, because you don't just up and change baseball, so why would you target another past time.
ORDONA , ROLAND G  October 29, 2015
PORT ANGELES , WA  
Comments:
I don't know which river you are proposing we would not be able to fish from a floating device on. On the web page above there is a table proposing several rivers, and on the "recommendation" page it says only the Hoh above Morgan's crossing. Which is it?
N, KRIS   October 29, 2015
PORTLAND, OR  
Comments:
Please institute a no fishing from boat rule from Olympic National Park boundary downstream to the WDFW boat launch at Morgan's Crossing in the upper Hoh River.
CHRISTIAN, JAMES R  October 29, 2015
KENT, WA  
Comments:
Seriously you want to put more rules on us fishermen who buy your licenses not only fishing licenses hunting licenses, tags, permits. You going to stop the Indians from stringing there nets across the rivers with there boats? No your not.This is all BS.
HUBBARD, SHAUN A  October 29, 2015
FRIDAY HARBOR, WA  
Comments:
I support Rule #46. Please institute a "no fishing from floating device" rule from the selected Olympic Peninsula rivers. Thank you.
ARDOVINO, ROBERT   October 29, 2015
EL PASO, TX  
Comments:
Adopt the no fishing from a floating device or boat rule.
ENGLISH, NICK   October 29, 2015
BOZEMAN, MO  
Comments:
I agree with this. It would put less pressure on the wild steelhead coming in to spawn.
HALE, RICHARD   October 29, 2015
VANCOUVER, WA  
Comments:
I am not in favor of this proposal as stated.
ALLEN, JASON   October 29, 2015
SEATTLE, WA  
Comments:
No. I think the other rules are sufficient enough. The peninsula Rivers are much different than the deshutes and would make the already suffering economies of the peninsula suffer more. It would also overcrowd bank access
BRADY, DOUGLAS A  October 29, 2015
BEND, OR  
Comments:
i are with this action 100%. As an avid steel header i understand what this does for angling opportunities but believe this resource demands it !!!
ISAAC, MIKE   October 29, 2015
HERMISTON, OR  
Comments:
Thanks for the chance to provide feedback. Who benefits from no boats on coastal streams? A hand full of wading fly fisherman? I've always thought that Washington was a state that looked out for our fish runs and made good choices for ALL. Regulate the numbers of boats on a river per day, close spawning grounds during late season, shorten seasons-if needed, limit the numbers of harvested fish, but make good choices for the ENTIRE fishing population. I've experienced the Washington State steelhead fishery for 50+ years and watched it change greatly since the 1960's. I remember 100+ boats on the Boggy, with 100's of fish being harvested each day. Heavy fishing pressure is nothing new. I see a no boat restriction destroying the economy of Forks. Is No boats on coastal streams an experiment? What is the expected outcome? Want more fish? Protect wild stock and bring back efficient hatchery programs, don't limit access... Thank you for letting me share my views... MI
INGLIN, DUANE   October 29, 2015
OLYMPIA, WA  
Comments:
I have not reviewed any information that supports these rule changes being implemented, that would benefit the majority of recreational fishers on these coastal waters. I also have seen nothing from WDFW that would indicate that these measures are necessary for conservation concerns. Some of these suggestions have value, however collectively they are nothing more than a small select group trying to create fishing opportunities that fit their needs/wants. Because this affects such a large area and user group with no supportive information, I am asking that these recommendations NOT be implemented as rule changes in 2016. Thank You- Duane Inglin
CUOMO, DANIEL J  October 29, 2015
TACOMA, WA  
Comments:
I strongly support this rule change. Save wild steelhead! Now!
W, DAN   October 29, 2015
WA, WA  
Comments:
YOU ALL NEED TO PULL YOUR HEADS OUT OF YOU ASSES JUST WHAT IN THE HELL DO YOU ALL THINK YER DOING TO THE STATE !!!!! YOU ARE THE BIGGEST MISTAKE TO THE STATE LEARN TO MAKE BETTER DECISIONS. YOU MAKE ME WANT TO PUKE
MCGIVERN, MIKE H  October 29, 2015
KIRKLAND, WA  
Comments:
I'd rather see river closures than limit opportunities to catch fish from a boat or a side planer. This proposal would limit fishing opportunities for people with mobility challenges. These folks can get into a boat but not always get to the bank to fish. The proposal would also cause crowding at all the available bank fishing spots. In addition, I believe that all wild steelhead should be released.
NOLAN, KENDALL A  October 29, 2015
SNOHOMISH, WA  
Comments:
I do not support this proposal. Drift boat owners and guides are the most knowledgeable of the fish, act as a protector of this most valuable resource, and as a rule are very experienced fisherman who practice good catch and release practices. People who take the time and money to own a boat are very serious about protecting our fish. I fear taking this away will reduce the amount of interest and effort we put forth to protect and respect this resource. Without the boats and guides there will be less protection, less education, and there will not be as much communication of what is really happening in the system. thank you for taking the time to read this input.
PETERS, THOM   October 29, 2015
SNOHOMISH, WA  
Comments:
As an owner of a drift boat, I wholeheartedly agree with this proposal. It works on the Deshutes in Oregon.
LAMPERS, RAYMOND J  October 29, 2015
GRANITE FALLS, WA  
Comments:
No, when we are left without a chance to fish portions of the river because of lack of legal access except by boat hurts all of us fisherman.
SUNICH, JOHN   October 29, 2015
EDGEWOOD , WA  
Comments:
I don't agree with this rule proposal. In many rivers trampling the banks and wading through the river will do more harm than fishing the river from a boat. Many new to the sport fly anglers continually trample redds not knowing what they are standing on just to swing their flies. By closing rivers to fishing from a floating device there will be even more uneducated anglers, normally in a boat, now trampling redds and disturbing the spawning activities.
CARLTON, JOSHUA   October 29, 2015
PUYALLUP , WA  
Comments:
This proposal is insane. Keeping drift boats off these systems will kill the economy in those areas not to mention put me out of buisness. Haven't you guys done enough?
REALE, DOM   October 29, 2015
LACEY, WA  
Comments:
I vehemently oppose this plan. So, this plan would: let the tribes continue their barely checked netting, let the bankie fly swingers continue their merry pursuit, while stopping all Forks guided sport fishing. Shutting all Forks guides down along with their clients (like me) is a draconian measure that has not in any way been proven necessary. I would suggest a better plan would be to acquire accountability from tribal netting while limiting the number Forks guide licenses.
KIMBALL, DALLAS J  October 30, 2015
FORKS, WA  
Comments:
No fishing from a floating device? This rule has very little description. Does that mean all river boats and pontoons gear round on any of those rivers? I don't get why this is even being considered. What about the all of us that have bought "floating devices" for the purpose of sport fishing. We may as well throw away our boats. I don't understand why taking a boat ride and cathing fish is any different then catching them from the bank.horrible rule
GEISSER, DAVID   October 30, 2015
OAKLAND , CA  
Comments:
That's the rule on the Deschutes river in Oregon where I recently caught some beautiful wild steelhead. Save the wild Steelhead!
SILBERGELD, DANIEL   October 30, 2015
SEATTLE, WA  
Comments:
A similar no float rule has had a positive impact on the Deschutes River in Oregon. Let's get the dead drifted eggs off the redds!
FIGDORE, BRYCE   October 30, 2015
KIRKLAND, WA  
Comments:
I support these initiatives to protect wild salmon and steelhead.
WORKLAND, PAUL   October 30, 2015
OLYMPIA, WA  
Comments:
Are you kidding me? This is over the top. I would not and will not support this takeover of our rivers. I have fished these waters for 45 years. I worked summers picking up litter in the Olympics, so I know what I'm talking about. Whose' idea is this really? We all want to protect salmon and steelhead but this isn't the way to do it.
ROSE, CHRISTOPHER   October 30, 2015
WOODLAND, WA  
Comments:
Limiting traffic an requiring anglers to fish from the shore adds an element of fair chase that has worked on rivers like the Deschutes in Oregon. Steelhead need some kind of safe haven where it is more difficult to access.
WILLIAMS, ZACK   October 30, 2015
PULLMAN, WA  
Comments:
I as a guide on the Olympic Peninsula streams believe this is imperative for the protection and future of coastal wild steelhead. These fish need refuge. No fishing from a floating device allows anglers to choose any angling method but allows more fish to pass unharmed to spawning waters. Please adopt this regulation.
YOUNG, LUCAS J  October 30, 2015
BAINBRIDGE ISLAND, WA  
Comments:
I believe that disallowing fishing from floating vessels in certain rivers on the Olympic Peninsula would help to significantly reduce angling pressure and hooking mortality for steelhead populations that are virtually on the verge of collapse. Fish in rivers like the Sol Duc are especially susceptible to angling later in the season when they are beginning to spawn as they spend more time in shallow tailouts and are easier to target. It would help to reduce traffic on the water thus providing fish with more of a "refuge" during a time when they are especially susceptible to angler efforts. This is a crucial time in their life history and they need to be protected. The Hoh and the Sol Duc rivers in particular see an undue amount of boat traffic later in the season and are two rivers that I would recommend to be subject to this regulation.
SAVILLE, STEVEN A  October 30, 2015
TACOMA, WA  
Comments:
I support the proposal to eliminate fishing from any floating device on all streams listed in the proposal. This rule change is necessary to protect the fishery and survival and enhancement.
KELNER, JULIE L  October 30, 2015
BREMERTON, WA  
Comments:
Please institute a no fishing from boat rule from Olympic National Park boundary downstream to the WDFW boat launch at Morgan’s Crossing in the upper Hoh River. With reduced wild steelhead runs and more fishing pressure from boats, this is necessary to help retain the wild steelhead.
SLIGHTOM, BRUCE W  October 30, 2015
EUREKA, CA  
Comments:
This would help spawning fish in certain areas to not be pulled off of the redds in areas that are not accessible to wade fishers.
BURKE, TIM   October 30, 2015
KIRKLAND, WA  
Comments:
Yes, we need to limit how fish are targeted on these smaller rivers.
THALER, WYATT M  October 30, 2015
SEATTLE, WA  
Comments:
I support this rule.
RICE, JASON L  October 30, 2015
SPRINGFIELD, OR  
Comments:
This is a great proposal for the survival of our fish. It gives them places where they can rest from the pressure of over fishing. It has works very well on the Deschutes and levels the playing field for anglers.
COLE, HOWARD   October 30, 2015
JACKSON, WY  
Comments:
I strongly support rule change #46. I would also like to see the Queets River added to the list. Thanks again for considering my comments.
NEFF, ADAM R  October 30, 2015
EAST WENATCHEE, WA  
Comments:
I support this change but would prefer to see it on a smaller sample set first. Maybe just one or two rivers, see the response/impact, then adjust from there.
ZARELLI, CARL   October 30, 2015
UNIVERSITY PLACE , WA  
Comments:
I would suggest that WDFW institute a no fishing from boat rule from Olympic National Park boundary downstream to the WDFW boat launch at Morgan’s Crossing in the upper Hoh River. Having fished the Deshutes in Oregon many times I find this will even the paying field for the fish and keep the pressure minimized for the fish.
GALLAGHER, RILEY M  October 30, 2015
EDMONDS, WA  
Comments:
The vast majority of steelhead on the OP are caught by anglers in boats and the advent of rafts - both large and small - and improved fishing techniques means that there are very few places where steelhead cannot be caught by anglers. While anglers could not fish from a boat in this reach of the Hoh under the proposed rule, they could still use boats for transportation.
HARDY, JIM   October 30, 2015
KIRKLAND, WA  
Comments:
Fishing from a floating device (boat) should not be restricted!!! This greatly limits the opportunity for some classes of people (disabled, elderly) and also would encourage people to wade in dangerous water. A restriction like this would lead to an increased possibility of drownings. It would also result in high concentrations of anglers in particular areas within the restricted zone, thus causing navigation issues. It could also lead to private land owners opening up to fee access, further exacerbating the issue. There are many ways to help protect the resource that would be effective: catch and release, barbless hooks, restrict bait fishing, single hook only, limiting guides to certain days of the week (this is where the heavy traffic comes from with respect to floating). The people that this would impact are the people who are the greatest stewards of the resource, and are probably not the source of the problem, but the solution to the problem. Don't shut us out.
ALEXANDER, ROBERT   October 30, 2015
BEAVER, WA  
Comments:
An important step forward in conserving wild steelhead and salmon.
DENNISON, LARRY W  October 30, 2015
PORT TOWNSEND, WA  
Comments:
I support Rule change #46 to prohibit fishing from floating devices in certain areas of the North Coast rivers. We simply must take conservation goals at the top of the wild fish management agenda. The Department has tried many half-efforts in an understandable attempt to restore and protect stocks, but they have obviously failed. It is time to move to the next step and take the protection of these critically important wild stocks seriously. We must do EVERYTHING we can to stop the decline. These rule changes are modeled after successful wild steelhead conservation regulations from Oregon, British Columbia, and other areas.
KELL, COREY   October 30, 2015
PORT ANGELES, WA  
Comments:
1. Additional economic effects guides and small businesses "negative impact". Revenue loss. 2. Increases landowner-fishermen incidents along river access areas, pressured by more bank access. 3. Perhaps limit float days not totally closing off float days. 4. Select or alternate rivers annually for float fishing.
LANGENHORST, HUBERT S  October 30, 2015
SPOKANE, WA  
Comments:
I support this proposal to eliminate all fishing from a floating device on the select streams mentioned in this proposal.
BENEFIELD, PAUL W  October 30, 2015
KIRKLAND, WA  
Comments:
This appears to be quite extreme for sport fishing. Are similar measures being imposed on the Tribes? I cannot speak to the percentage of fish taken by the tribes on the listed rivers, but on the Humptulips, which I fish frequently, it seems like the tribes are taking the VAST majority of the fish. One hopes that if extreme closures are imposed on sport fishers, reductions are also imposed on the tribes. Further, this would be a large restriction on the guides and it would concentrate boat pressure on the non-regulated rivers. Another point; as a senior citizen I am no longer able to crash the brush to access rivers and I rely on guided float trips to get on the water.
BROOKS, JASON J  October 30, 2015
PUYALLUP, WA  
Comments:
If you make me get out of the boat to fish then I will be standing in the river, standing on salmon Redds, and killing even more fish...this makes no sense. These rivers are not like the Deschutes in Oregon but are fairly short drainages where salmon (and steelhead) spawn throughout their entire system and therefore are more likely to recieve unintentional damage from those standing in the river vs fishing from a boat. I Oppose this rule change.
LIVINGSTON, CLAY   October 30, 2015
STANWOOD, WA  
Comments:
I agree, please adopt this proposal to provide refuge for fish and increase angler satisfaction
BANAHAN, SEAN   October 30, 2015
SEATTLE, WA  
Comments:
Please seriously consider implementing this change. By restricting the ability of anglers to fish from boats, we are provide the fish more places to rest and helps ensure we don't take entire runs of fish.
REMMER, STEVEN B  October 30, 2015
BAINBRIDGE ISLAND, WA  
Comments:
I support rule change #46, specifically by asking WDFW to experiment with a the rule change, no fishing from floating device, in the upper Hoh River from the Olympic National Park boundary downstream to the WDFW boat launch at Morgan's Crossing. By experiment, I mean to institute the change and then review annually. The annual review would inform WDFW whether to continue the policy in the upper Hoh and whether to expand the policy to other streams or sections of the Hoh.
WITTNER, RODNEY   October 30, 2015
WEST RICHLAND, WA  
Comments:
It is time to implement the no fishing from floating devices rule. The runs of wild steelhead and salmon are being decimated, it is time to act in order to preserve wild fish. It is time act, do your job. Regards, Rodney Wittner
FAIRBROOK, DUSTIN M  October 30, 2015
SEATTLE, WA  
Comments:
As angler efficiency improves more and more over time, the amount of fish that I have witnessed caught and then released has increased significantly over the past decade. This is mainly due to modern techniques used in the pursuit of fish in these rivers and also due to the added amount of angler pressure. I would comment that this rule throughout all of these basins would take away from the fishing experience, but I do think that there should be certain stretches of the rivers such as the upper Hoh above Morgan’s Crossing and the Bogacheil above Hwy 101 that could be perfect locations for this rule allowing fish to have safe havens in these areas where anglers will not be able to hook fish repeatedly from a boat.
HOUTROUW , PETER   October 30, 2015
GIG HARBOR, WA  
Comments:
I would look into how many salmon & steelhead are being encountered via help from professional fishing guides both (fly and gear) vs. sportsmen and women like myself attempting to catch and release on our own. Perhaps a limit on professional guides targeting protected runs of fish would greatly help decrease the number of salmon & steelhead encounters throughout the state. The fishing guide pressure and success rate is overwhelming the populations, especially in low water conditions that are increasingly becoming the norm in the pacific NW.
WYATT, JAMES   October 30, 2015
SNOHOMISH, WA  
Comments:
Yes.this rule is good. Boats are able to cover too much water in a day. Increasing the number of fish hooked per day and allowing fishermen to target fish in several rivers a day.
MILLER, RUSSELL   October 30, 2015
EDMONDS, WA  
Comments:
Have the Bogiachile River 1 and the Hoh River 5 as a the rivers that are no fishing from a boat. Wild steelhead need sanctuary water to hide.
CORRADO, GREG   October 30, 2015
PORT ORCHARD, WA  
Comments:
I think this is a great idea. I have fished the Deschutes River in Oregon with this regulation for over 40 years. This reduces fishing pressure, makes for better fishing and still allows access to all types of gear to be used.
SLY, BRANDON   October 30, 2015
BELLINGHAM, WA  
Comments:
I am in favor of adopting this rule.
MORRISSEY, ERIC O  October 30, 2015
NEW YORK, NY  
Comments:
Agreed. No fishing from a "floating device." This proposal makes sense. If implemented, I would consider resuming my annual trips to the OP, which I have recently given up because of the poor state of the fishery. Please support. Thanks.
BENTZ, KEITH   October 30, 2015
BRISBANE, CA  
Comments:
I support an experimental policy of no fishing from a floating device on the Upper Hoh River.
DETTMAN, TROY   October 30, 2015
BAINBRIDGE ISLAND , WA  
Comments:
I am a guide for the last 20 years out in the area of Forks and I am all for this proposal to be in effect asap !
HARRINGTON, KENNETH J  October 30, 2015
POULSBO, WA  
Comments:
I don't support this proposal
LAYTON, JEFF   October 30, 2015
WASHOUGAL, WA  
Comments:
Please limit no fishing from a boat in the Hoh from Olympic National Park boundary down to 101 bridge, seven miles down stream from Morgan's Crossing. These are almost all wild Steelhead and this would help reduce stress on the Steelhead but still allow quality fishing.
ROCKWELL, CHARLES M  October 30, 2015
PENN VALLEY, CA  
Comments:
I support reducing fishing from floating devices in certain coastal rivers to protect wild steelhead. The recommendations of the Wild Steelhead Coalition make sense to me in order to determine if this might help recover declining populations of steelhead.
DURHAM, JOSEPH P  October 30, 2015
ABERDEEN, WA  
Comments:
Do not support this reg. proposal change. Boaters have Thousands of $$$$ invested in their method if fishing. Would create tension between fishing groups. I suggest boundaries be drawn with no fishing above boundaries, placed many miles below existing boundaries. example. No Fishing above Morgans Crossing on the Hoh. Thus disallowing fishing on the spawning grounds, this need to happen on many rivers.
MITCHELL, THOMAS   October 30, 2015
BELLEVUE, WA  
Comments:
I fully support this proposal and would support a more extensive application. Please consider expanding the rule downstream as the season progresses as later arriving steelhead spawn lower in the system.
HAAG, KATIE   October 30, 2015
FORKS, WA  
Comments:
By limiting access to bank fishing only, my ability to get food from a natural resource is severely limited. Land access to Coast rivers is already severely limited. A person must purchase permits from local timber companies or gain permission from a private landowner. I can't afford these permits and most private landowners don't want strangers on their properties or are willing to accept the liability of strangers on their property. People want to hire a guide to see our natural treasures and maybe catch a few dinners while on the river. This is limiting access to most people. The rivers are a public resource and should be open to all, not just those special few who can afford access or have a special relationship with a private landowner. Fishing is not a "rich man's sport." It is a valuable resource to those of us who feed our families from the land. I do not support this rule change. It is severely limiting to the people (me) who use the rivers to feed our families.
OSENBACH, RUSS J  October 30, 2015
BURLINGTON, WA  
Comments:
I'm very much in favor of this rule. Allowing boats and rafts to access places to fish on the rivers means people will be able to access the remote areas of the rivers, but banning fishing from the boat, will allow steelhead to have some sanctuary water since there are places where it is virtually impossible to effectively get a lure to steelhead without being in a boat. Banning fishing from boats also will spread out fishing pressure instead of having 10,20, 40 boats hitting the same runs every day, requiring anglers to get out and wade to fish automatically spreads out the pressure. I've seen this work very well on the Madison in Montana and the Deschutes in Oregon.
SCOTT, MARC   October 30, 2015
SPANAWAY, WA  
Comments:
all these rule proposals are bullshit. Dont we have enough rules imposed on us already?
CHIN, RAYMOND   October 30, 2015
LOS ALTOS, CA  
Comments:
I support the adoption "no fishing from a floating device". It is too detrimental to the fish and leaves them no sanctuary for spawning and resting while migrating upstream.
RIDDLE, STAN   October 30, 2015
SEQUIM, WA  
Comments:
I believe that gear (single barbless hooks) and bait restrictions will accomplish the desired goal. We don't need to restrict fishing from drift boats or rafts.
SMITH, GREGORY T  October 30, 2015
SEATTLE, WA  
Comments:
I completely support this proposal #46 as it will help protect the gene pool of the wild steelhead that is critical to its survival on the Olympic Peninsula. Fishing pressure on wild steelhead continues to increase while loss of habitat and low snowpack continue to threaten the long term survival of the species. It is important to act now on this proposal, and other proposals, to help prevent a significant decline in the wild steelhead population on the Olympic Peninsula. Once such a decline occurs, as in the Puget Sound rivers, it is very difficult to restore and the loss of the wild gene pool puts the survival of the species at risk. Protecting the species now helps ensure the future generations enjoy the opportunity to experience these incredible fish, and ensures that their important role in the larger ecosystem remains intact. Prohibiting fishing from a boat means important parts of the river are available to the wild steelhead where they are safe from harvest.
SMITH, MICHAEL S  October 30, 2015
SEATTLE, WA  
Comments:
Please make this happen!
HAMMERSTAD, CHARLES B  October 30, 2015
SAN JOSE, CA  
Comments:
I support this rule change!!!
STURM, JEFFREY M  October 30, 2015
EVERETT, WA  
Comments:
Recommend adoption of the "no fishing from floating device" rules on select north coast streams.
DUDLEY, PAUL   October 30, 2015
BLAINE, WA  
Comments:
Fish need to have safe area's fishing from boats shouldn't be allowed, KILLING WILD STEELHEAD shouldn't be allowed and I can't believe this state is so far behind on this!!! Single barbless hooks should be implemented as well... These are all no brainers...why has it taken this long??
STEWART, ROBERT   October 30, 2015
GLENWOOD SPRINGS, CO  
Comments:
I think this is a great idea. It's a level playing field. People are going to get out of their boats and look around and enjoy the scenery. Frankly it's going to make it harder to catch fish but on the other hand these are legendary steel they should 'the be easy to catch. technology to catch fish just keeps getting better and better. These fish need a break. They have a hard enough time and this might give them a break.
LASKODI, ROBERT   October 30, 2015
SAN JOSE, CA  
Comments:
I am a fly angler who can not safely wade due to a medical condition called BPPV (a balance disorder). Currently, the only non-resident fishing license I buy is Washington, and I fish the OP rivers for winter steelhead often. My contributions to the local Washington economy are on the order of $10,000 - $20,000 annually. If the state of Washington decides to deny me access to safely fish from a boat, I will no longer bring my business to the state and instead patronize those states that do not make me fish in an unsafe manner. If C&R mortality is an issue, rivers should be closed to ALL methods of fishing, period. This regulation is being pushed by an angling user group (spey anglers) in order to enhance their experience at the expense of other user groups and should not be approved.
SERENO, VINCENT J  October 30, 2015
ARNOLD, CA  
Comments:
To help protect spawning steelhead a no fishing from boat rule should be implemented from the Olympic National Park boundary downstream to the WDFW boat launch at Morgan Crossing on the upper Hoh River.
THURSTON, JEREMY   October 30, 2015
SEATTLE, WA  
Comments:
I do not support this rule change. My father and I have enjoyed fishing the Olympic Peninsula for many years and he may not be able to wade for too many more years. I would hate for him and others who are older to lose the opportunity to fish for steelhead and salmon on the Olympic Peninsula--particularly on the Hoh River. This is too discriminatory. I would much rather see the number of fishing guides limited to those who have legal residency on the peninsula.
JELLISON, TIM F  October 30, 2015
PUYALLUP, WA  
Comments:
Has the Advisory Group thought or considered how much additional pressure would be placed on other streams in the Olympic Region! Implementing a proposal like this would be the demise of already reduced salmon and steelhead populations in our streams. Is no fishing from floating devices also being considered for the tribal fisheries! Equity should be considered!
THOMPSON, FRED J  October 30, 2015
SOUTH CLE ELUM, WA  
Comments:
I don't know that I agree with this it seems like setting up the rules to cater to one type of angler. Namely those who like to "swing" flies with a 2 handed rod.
WALLACE, DICK   October 30, 2015
LACEY, WA  
Comments:
I disagree with this proposal. There are many options to consider before taking this extreme position such as limitations on bait, capping the number of guides, catch and release only when wild stocks are present etc.
BROZELL, CHRIS   October 30, 2015
FORKS, WA  
Comments:
I strongly support this measure and hope it can be made nearly peninsula wide. This would save many fish along with vastly improving the fishing experience and preventing the daily "parade" harassment of fish by boats.
STEELE, GRANN   October 31, 2015
TACOMA , WA  
Comments:
This is my opinion known regarding the rule proposal. I understand both sides of the argument, however I don't think this is the best way to address the issue of over harvest. I recently went on a guided trip in Oregon on the Deshutes river, this river has similar roles to your proposal. The boat was used for floating from one spot to another. The Guide knew all of the best spots on the river we would simply stop at the holes fish them using conventional equipment until we caught nine or 10 fish out of every hole. The Wa rivers are different they offer less holding water and places for fish to rest between river obstacles. If we were not allowed to fish from floating device we would be forced to stop at these places and fish them until the fish become extremely aggravated and stressed. Not to mention that the majority of these places are extremely close to the spawning redds. In my opinion the rule limiting fishing for a floating device would offer no benefit to the Wa coast river
BUSCH, ANTHONY   October 31, 2015
PORT ORCHARD, WA  
Comments:
I fully support this proposal. Give the fish some hiding spots by restricting boat fishing.
HARDING, BRENT   October 31, 2015
SPOKANE, WA  
Comments:
I support Rule #46 and specifically suggest instituting a no fishing from boat rule from Olympic National Park boundary downstream to the WDFW boat launch at Morgan’s Crossing in the upper Hoh River.
WALIMAKI, ALAN D  October 31, 2015
EVERETT, WA  
Comments:
Please do not adopt this. Pay the Indians to not put there nets in. I think you would find most fisherman like myself would contribute to this way of thinking. This is a unique area us fisherman enjoy and would be ashamed to lose. Please!!
WALLA, GARY   October 31, 2015
TACOMA, WA  
Comments:
My family has a getaway place in Ocean Shores, and we enjoy drift boat fishing North Coast rivers, sometimes guided, sometimes not. My comments regarding this proposal follow. The rule change for conservation purposes should be "all or nothing". That is, continue to allow fishing from floating devices; or CLOSE fishing to everyone, including the Tribes, on selected streams. Thank you.
KLINE, CHRISTOPHER A  October 31, 2015
SEQUIM, WA  
Comments:
Spawning salmon and steelhead should be left alone to protect the resource. There is plenty of fishing opportunity without unnecessarily disturbing the breeding zones. Floating these zones is a disturbance and should be prohibited, especially while populations are at risk.
JOHNSON, DAVID L  October 31, 2015
BELLINGHAM, WA  
Comments:
I have long felt that a rule allowing use of boats for access only, that is no fishing from boats, would be helpful to provide some protection for migrating steelhead. It would give them some areas of sanctuary that are difficult to fish without being in a boat. I support this proposal for all of the rivers listed above. Dave Johnson
STORFOLD, JOHN   October 31, 2015
GRANTS PASS, OR  
Comments:
Placing this restriction keeps fisher-persons from sitting on top of spawning beds and holding holes and gives these precious treasures a fighting chance to make it to their spawning areas and reproduce to perpetuate their existence. This has also a long proven track record of helping. As for those that would say what about those handicap fishers that can't wade fish, give them an exemption but it must be accompanied with a disabled fishing licence.
WARREN, STUART S  October 31, 2015
PHOENIX, OR  
Comments:
I completely support this rule change for the rivers of the Olympic Peninsula. Over the past ten years I have watched these rivers turn into the equivalent of rush hour traffic with boat anglers. This rule will remove a lot of pressure from these wild fish and help preserve them for future generations.
LORENTSEN, DONALD   October 31, 2015
RAYMOND, WA  
Comments:
Absolutely, the most crazy proposal I have yet to encountered to date. What about those of us that are unable to fish from the bank due to handicaps or transportation? Why buy a license to fish? Sales will plummet!
BENEDETTI, THOMAS   October 31, 2015
SEATTLE, WA  
Comments:
I think this proposal applied across the board would severely effect the Forks area economically. I have fished with a guide once or twice a year on the olympic peninsula for 30 years . I would rather see some sort of lottery system instituted for all fishermen with a license to have access to these rivers.
LAYTON, ROBERT L  October 31, 2015
LONGVIEW, WA  
Comments:
This proposal is very much needed. Fishing from a boat presents an unfair advantage to the angler over the fish on the OP rivers. It is too effective and results in many more catches of wild fish thereby increasing this stress and survival chances.
BAILEY, RICK T  October 31, 2015
REDDING, CA  
Comments:
I urge you to consider the sport fisherman such as my self. I am handicapped and unable to fish from most banks on the rivers being targeted for closure to flotation devices . This has been my recreation since an injury left me partially paralyzed 20 years ago. It seems there have numerous restrictions on sport fisherman over the years , Barbless hooks, no live bait , early closures to some streams etc. please consider the minimal impact sport fisherman have on the fish populations. We always catch and release , observe all regulations and add to the local economy. Sincerely, Rick Bailey
MURPHY, JOHN   October 31, 2015
EL DORADO HILLS, CA  
Comments:
I support the institution of no fishing from boat rule from Olympic National Park boundary downstream to the WDFW boat launch at Morgan’s Crossing in the upper Hoh River.
ADAMKIEWICZ, MARTIN   October 31, 2015
LODI, NJ  
Comments:
Please adopt rule #46 for the good of the fish. unpopular but needed.
SHEA, JEFF S  October 31, 2015
SEATTLE, WA  
Comments:
no. reject this proposal. eliminate wild retention completely. salmon runs are doing fine. don't hurt the local economies on the Olympic Peninsula. guides, tackle, hotel/motel/bed&breakfasts,restaurants would all suffer. maybe limit floats per year per person (i.e. ten trip/float punch card .) bank fishing only will ruin and overcrowd the rivers prime spots.
THOMAS, JOHN   October 31, 2015
EPHRATA, WA  
Comments:
This proposal should be considered on at least upper stretches of rivers where spawning is more prevalent
GILLESPIE, CHAD   October 31, 2015
POULSBO, WA  
Comments:
I do not support a restriction for no fishing from a floating device. I personally have been fishing the Olympic Peninsula rivers for the past 25 years from the bank, and just last winter purchased a drift boat to be able to access these river systems. Many of the rivers like the Sol Duc are inaccessible to bank fish even if it takes getting there by drift boat due to narrow width of the river. A better solution may be to severely restrict the number of fishing guides allowed to fish these systems- similar to the way British Columbia has done in their Skeena River system. Extreme pressure has been put on the Olympic Peninsula wild steelhead due to guides shifting their location to the OP, because the Puget Sound rivers have closed. Guide license limitations need to be put into effect
STOLL, RICHARD   October 31, 2015
POULSBO, WA  
Comments:
Please adopt no fishing from floating device as proposed
JOHNSON, GARY L  October 31, 2015
CHIMACUM, WA  
Comments:
Nowdays steelhead and salmon entering our coastal rivers and streams are met with an onslaught of obstacles. Those that survive nets are met with an ever increasing number of sport fishermen who employ ever increasingly effective methods of targeting those fish. With no limit on the number of boats allowed on the river few wild fish make it to their spawning grounds without being caught multiple times. Little is known about how much this stress affects their ability to survive much less spawn. Opening up passage ways by removing boat fishing angler will guarantee geater numbers of strong, healthy fish in histiric spawning grounds and go far in perpetuating a severely harried species.
BLEVINS, GREGORY F  November 01, 2015
RAYMOND, WA  
Comments:
WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN FISHING FROM A DRIFT BOAT OR FISHING FROM THE BANK,THEY ARE STILL HOOKING FISH.MORTALITY RATE IS STILL THE SAME!IF THEY CAN'T FISH FROM A DRIFT BOAT,NO SHORE FISHING EITHER.ACTUALLY,MORE DAMAGE IS DONE FISHING FROM SHORE BECAUSEOF STRAIN OF GETTING FISH OUT OF FAST WATER,AT LEST WITH A BOAT YOU CAN CHASE A FISH!
RIEDER, CALEB D  November 01, 2015
BEND, OR  
Comments:
One of my favorite rivers in Oregon has to be the lower deschutes River where you haven't been able to fish from a floating device for as long as I can remember. This regulation has no doubt made this fishery more challenging physically and mentally, but it has done something to keep the fish population steady. It gives fish places to rest where they aren't being beaten by the stick, where they can find peace before the spawn. That river gets more pressure than any river I've ever seen, yet it is a consistent producer of beautiful wild and hatchery steelhead. I am voting to make all the Washington streams above a wading fishery only. It will eliminate some of the fisherman no doubt, but by doing so protect the steelhead, salmon and trout of your waters.
BANNON, MIKE   November 01, 2015
TACOMA, W  
Comments:
To not allow fishing from a floating device is over the top. There is not enough access on t bh e peninsula to restrict boats. All this rule will do will be to restrict older fishermen like myself and disabled from accessing the river. Not to mention put alot of hsrd working guides out of business. I'm all for restricting the killing of wild fish but the boat restrictions are ridiculous.
DENIGER, MIKE   November 01, 2015
BONNEY LAKE, WA  
Comments:
I agree 100% with this proposal.
SCHLIE, GERALD   November 01, 2015
BEAVER, WA  
Comments:
The majority of the rivers of the Quillyute system are unaccessible for bank fishing. Eliminating boats would benefit only a select group of fisherman and would not benefit the majority. The fishing rules should not changed to suit a select group of fisherman.
LEIBRECHT, MARCUS   November 01, 2015
LOS ALAMOS, NM  
Comments:
Please consider implimenting the "no fishing from floating device.In such a critical environment the boats leave no spot unturned.The fish get NO place to hide. These rivers are our last hope to save and protect this pricless resource.It will be great for you to look back and say that you did the right thing,no matter what the external pressures. Thank you ML
THORGRAMSON, JOHN   November 01, 2015
BEAVERTON, OR  
Comments:
NO BOATS ON THESE RIVERS? What special interest group is behind this insanity? Fly fisherman,home owners on the river,bank fisherman,tribal greed, or people in government who don't fish and want to pass stupid bills! Why not pass a bill keep the nets out of the rivers? What is this bill based on? Not well thought out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THINK BEFORE YOU ACT!
MEYER, CHRIS D  November 01, 2015
GIG HARBOR, WA  
Comments:
Finally something good for the resource. The amount of pressure on the Olympic Peninsula is insane now that there are so many closures elsewhere. The 1 native limit is also insane. The guides have new clients everyday and they are killing a ton of natives... regardless of what they say. I have seen this with my own eyes many times. The other factor is this new mass of anglers to the Olympic Peninsula are not doing a good job of handling native fish. Net them, haul them in the boat, lots of pictures then let them go dead back into the river. I see that constantly also. The guides are the worst. If this plan is not instituted the listed rivers will be just like the Puget Sound Rivers shortly.
MERCER, RONALD S  November 01, 2015
LACEY, WA  
Comments:
I understand the reasoning for this change and agree to a point. It would be easier to swallow if we did it for a defined period of time to asses the positive/negative impact. Say for 2-3 years then revisit this proposal at a later date.
MCDONALD, GREG R  November 01, 2015
EDMONDS, WA  
Comments:
I will not refer to the existing science detialing the negative impact of over fishing from boats, but personal observation. When you witness many boats daily covering every square meter of water with effective techniques you realize that these fish have no sanctuary or respite from being fished over, until almost every fish is hooked. How could it not be detrimental to the fishery. Not allowing fishing from boats will provide somewhat of a safe haven for these threatened fish and increase opportunity for everyone.
ANDERSON, LAUREL A  November 01, 2015
OLYMPIA, WA  
Comments:
Give the fish a chance to spawn and do what nature indended. This rule should most definitely pass!
SHERWOOD, KURT   November 01, 2015
MAPLE VALLEY, WA  
Comments:
proposing no fishing from a floating device on select areas of north coastal streams makes sense. I travel and spend hard earned dollars to fish the Deschutes river in Oregon every year as do hundreds of non resident anglers, and this is a river that cannot be fished from a boat! Washington can learn a lesson from this type of rule!
GALLAGHER, SEAN M  November 01, 2015
ENUMCLAW, WA  
Comments:
This rule is long over due. Angling methods are much more effective than they were over 50 years ago when I started fishing for steelhead. Also, early closers on Puget Sound rivers has put more pressure on OP streams. It is not uncommon now during the peak season to see a constant flotilla of drift boats and rafts on many rivers--Most anglers are fishing from their boats. This combination of increased pressure and improved fishing methods is taking away any refuge steelhead might have. Few fish if any escape the hook. Picture the world class Deschutes River in Oregon if they lifted the ban on fishing from boats--both wild steelhead and the angling experience would suffer. This rule works. I support the advisory groups recommendation on the upper Hoh, and would like to include the Bogachiel above the hatchery, Clearwater River, Upper Quinault, and the short section the Queets River under state regulation.
HUNTER, JOHN   November 01, 2015
OLYMPIA, WA  
Comments:
I oppose this proposal. Restrictions on fishing from a boat would greatly reduce opportunity for sport angling in these rivers. Reduced sport harvest may allow tribal fisheries to go to court for harvest of the sport allocation. Fishing from shore is limited in many areas. Tribal fishermen all use boats. Sport anglers should be allowed to continue to fish from boats on north coast rivers.
KOSLOSKY, MIKE   November 01, 2015
GIG HARBOR, WA  
Comments:
As President of Puget Sound Fly Fishers representing 128 active members we collectively support the proposed rule change to prohibit fishing from floating devices in order to protect holding and spawning salmon on select North Coast rivers on the Olympic Peninsula.
LARSON, PAUL   November 01, 2015
ABERDEEN, WA  
Comments:
Let me guess inland empire fly fishers want to ban fishing from boats. Must have watched the program on the Oregon river that did it, as a good original idea is hard to come by on the wdfw commission. Have you nice people (morons) heard of the mono filament gill net. Pull your head out why should we have all the gear rules we have now? The tribes keep and kill everything. The next time I watch a fish and game commission meeting with a bunch of people who wouldn't know what end of the gun or rod to hold making a joke about every issue like they are so intelligent. I will vomit. Nice negotiation with quinault tribe on chehalis fishery. They go in two weeks early catch all the fish. We get big limit then they close the river. You would think someone would have had clue after the ocean fishery was open all summer with few silvers. You sound like a bunch of cavemen holding up signs to ban the wheel. What's next ban hip boots?
DANIELS , ROBERT B  November 01, 2015
FALL CITY , WA  
Comments:
Rule 46 has to go. No fishing from a floating device. That means the very limited public River accesses will be over crowded. That means guiding and all the money brought into forks through recreational angling money will severely decline. Your basically trying to turn these streams into fly fishing only waters. This is simply not right. The River are to be used by all and not one specific group of wild steelhead coalition fly fishermen.
CUMLEY, ERIC   November 01, 2015
SNOHOMISH, WA  
Comments:
While I share Rich Simms' concerns about salmon & steelhead mortality rates, his proposed "no boat fishing" on coastal rivers is definitely not the answer. While accomplished guides and experienced boat fishermen do hook numerous steelhead throughout the year, I also know that many "boat fishermen" like me are extremely conscientious about safe handling and humane release of native fish. It is certainly not just fly fishermen who care deeply about protecting our stocks of salmon and steelhead. (Something about this proposed rule makes me wonder if fly fishing purists are the ones behind it.) Don't get me wrong, I'm a flyfisherman too, but I also love fishing salmon and steelhead from a drift boat or sled. I respectfully ask that you reject this proposed rule change, and continue to allow fishing from floating devices on all rivers on the select list. Thanks for your consideration, Eric Cumley
PASQUA, JOHN   November 01, 2015
ESCONDIDO, CA  
Comments:
adopt no fishing from floating device.
FINAN, KEVIN P  November 01, 2015
BELLEVUE, WA  
Comments:
I support rule 46.
HOWELL, BOB L  November 02, 2015
FORKS, WA  
Comments:
I think this would be a good way to help the fish, Another would be to do like back in the good old days. Close the rivers above Highway 101 the last day of February, It would be easy to enforce and protect the spawning steelhead. This is when most folks come to harass native steelhead for fun. The State does not even do creel census on the Solduc in April when the boats are reeling them in by the dozen per day
MASONIS, ROBERT J  November 02, 2015
SEATTLE, WA  
Comments:
I support the SCPAG proposal to prohibit fishing from boats in the upper Hoh. I would like to see similar rules applied to other high-quality wild steelhead waters on the OP and across the state. We need to reduce wild steelhead encounter rates and provide them sanctuary in order to have sustainable wild steelhead fisheries in the future.
VRADENBURG, JOHN S  November 02, 2015
FALL CITY, WA  
Comments:
I'm in favor with this proposal.
NIELSEN, CRAIG J  November 02, 2015
MOUNT SHASTA, CA  
Comments:
I support this change to protect and preserve wild steelhead on the OP.
LEE, TRAVIS J  November 02, 2015
MOUNT VERNON, WA  
Comments:
If we can't fish from a boat than the Native Americans cannot fish/net from a boat either.
REED, RYAN W  November 02, 2015
SEATTLE, WA  
Comments:
At what point are the rule changes coming from special interest groups i.e. Trouts Unlimited, Steelheaders United, Native Fish Society, etc going to stop? When is WDFW and WA going to stand up to these groups that are only looking for a land grab? It is nearly impossible and potentially dangerous to not fish out of a boat on the Sol Duc and many other rivers on the Olympic Peninsula due to the topography and water flow. Why is it NOT ok to fish out vessel but is OK for a group of people to tromp through the river walking over reds and turning up sentiment? I vehemently oppose this rule recommendation. Thanks for your time
ALBRECHT, RICHARD L  November 02, 2015
SEATTLE, WA  
Comments:
I support all of the recommendations of the North Coast Steelhead Advisory Group. This group has worked hard and found compromise among different constituents and I believe it reflects the best path forward for the future of North Coast steelhead. I could not find a way to comment on all of the recommendations, so am using this rule change #46 as a venue for supporting all of the North Coast Advisory groups recommendations. I truly hope that ALL of their recommendation become the new rules!!!
BRYANT, KIM   November 02, 2015
DORSET, VT  
Comments:
I hope this legislation does not pass. I take a trip to the Olympic peninsula every year to fish and would stop coming if I couldn't fish from a boat at least some of the time. Also, many guides in the area would be lose a significant portion of their annual income if they were no longer permitted to guide from drift boats.
LEBING, WYTOLD   November 02, 2015
SEATTLE, WA  
Comments:
I support "no fishing from a floating device."
KUSTICH, RICK   November 02, 2015
GETZVILLE, NY  
Comments:
I support a regulation that would prohibit anglers from fishing from a boat.
KOOPMANS, DAVID R  November 02, 2015
BELLEVUE , WA  
Comments:
I further support proposals 46 and 47. We need to protect wild steelhead and these are reasonable proposals. They should be enacted.
STEENSON, RIVER C  November 02, 2015
PORTLAND, OR  
Comments:
We should institute a no fishing from the boat rule from Olympic National Park boundary downstream to the WDFW boat launch at Morgan's Crossing in the upper Hoh River.
HAENSLY, THOMAS   November 02, 2015
EDMONDS, WA  
Comments:
I strongly support WDFW adopting "no fishing from floating device" rules on all Washington rivers with steelhead fisheries, but especially on those with existing wild runs and those with potential for restoration of wild runs.
ROGERS, VINCENT A  November 02, 2015
CHESTER, CA  
Comments:
Implement 'no fishing from a floating device' restrictions on the Olympic Penninsula.
CAMPBELL, DAVE   November 02, 2015
SHORELINE, WA  
Comments:
Agree.
HALL, DAN   November 02, 2015
SHORELINE, WA  
Comments:
I agree with this proposal and hope it is adopted region wide. I also believe the number of steelhead guides ought to be limited Statewide and the Canadian management of "rod days" be adopted so guides can't move from river to river when conditions in one region change. The current system allows 'traffic jam' pressure on certain river systems (the OP) when Puget Sound rivers close which create circus like conditions because of the unreasonable numbers of guides working a river system.
MITCHELL, JAMEY A  November 02, 2015
CAMAS, WA  
Comments:
I am not in favor of implementing the 'no fishing from floating device' rule on the Olympic Peninsula rivers. I would consider being in favor of this for certain areas and certain river sections on certain rivers but not as it is proposed.
HINES, WILLIAM C  November 02, 2015
SAMMAMISH, WA  
Comments:
Do not approve. This will penalize sport fishers and the river guide industry. The guiding service is the livelihood of many families. Find a way to reduce gill net numbers or change netting techniques instead of hammering guides and sport fishers.
PURDIE, JASON   November 02, 2015
EDMONDS, WA  
Comments:
I am against this proposal wholeheartedly, however if you must close any of these rivers to fishing from boats I would suggest the Snahapish, Salmon, Dickey, and Calawah rivers since they are less popular anyways. Hooking a fish from a boat does not cause any more stress or harm to a fish than hooking one from the bank. Actually bank fisherman could actually be more harmful by dragging fish up on the rocks or dirt. Many anglers make one or two trips per year to the Olympic Peninsula to do drift boat trips down these magnificent rivers for salmon and steelhead. Please do not take that away. An alternative solution could be to limit the annual days of fishing on coastal rivers for each fisherman. Perhaps 7 or 10 days per year maximum on all coastal rivers would give everyone a chance to enjoy these fisheries without overfishing them. It could be recorded on catch record cards or requiring anglers to register for daily permits (which could be limited for each date).
HUCK, TODD   November 02, 2015
NACHES, WA  
Comments:
We need to consider reducing or limiting the amount of days or guides. Without any limit and virtually zero restrictions the guide pool may change names but the numbers only increase. By restricting a method of fishing(from boat) you are certainly reducing our effectiveness. By doing this you are also limiting some ways that we fisherman enjoy to fish, example plugging, free drifting etc.. I personally would rather see limited days on the water and zero retention on native fish. In closing I would like to mention that I have fished the forks area for winter steelhead for over 25 years and have seen the pressure grow beyond description. We need to better manage ourselves and we could start by limiting guides and limiting ourselves to certain days. Limiting methods is being very short sided and seems to cater to a certain user group. We are all fisherman so why not punish as a whole not a certain method or group. Thanks for considering our input.
ROSS, ROGER   November 02, 2015
PORT ANGELES , WA  
Comments:
I am against this proposal as it caters to an elitist group and not to actually protect fish.
MOORE, BRANDON W  November 02, 2015
MARYSVILLE , WA  
Comments:
Is there any proof of fishing from boats causing problems? Have any scientific studies been conducted? Closing these traditional drift boat fisheries seems very heavy-handed without significant evidence of a dire need to do so.
COMMINS, MICHAEL   November 02, 2015
TETONIA, ID  
Comments:
I support adoption of this rule on the Hoh, Sol Duc and Clearwater rivers.
BATSON, KELLER B  November 02, 2015
SEQUIM, WA  
Comments:
To act like the sportsfisherman are the ones who need to be more regulated in order to inprove the fish returns, is idiocy. The only real problems on these rivers is the nearly unchecked netting by the tribes. By limiting the way the people who pay to fish are able fish is just silly. How could that do anything but reduce revenue and therefore reduce the abilty to practice conservation. Let us use boats and barbs, and reduce the use of gill nets. Because only an simpleton would blame a rod and reel when nets are in the water...
BURDICK, ROBERT   November 02, 2015
SEATTLE, WA  
Comments:
I support it
PRUETT, JIM F  November 02, 2015
LAKE OSWEGO, OR  
Comments:
I support Rule #46 which would institute a no fishing from boat rule from Olympic National Park boundary downstream to the WDFW boat launch at Morgan’s Crossing in the upper Hoh River
DODGSON, ROBERT W  November 02, 2015
MERCER ISLAND, WA  
Comments:
I think allowing people to use drift boats or rafts are a better idea. They are non invasive and don't damage the ecosystem like Jet boast does. Or better yet do a lottery for so many boats a year can be used. For instance a guide wins one of the lottery and he would get the chance to pick odd or even days of use. This would insure less boats on the river at one time.
KISINGER, GREG R  November 03, 2015
RENTON, WA  
Comments:
Please institute a no fishing from boat rule from Olympic National Park boundary downstream to the WDFW boat launch at Morgan’s Crossing in the upper Hoh River.
OLSEN, CRAIG O  November 03, 2015
LAKE STEVENS, WA  
Comments:
I beleive that this suggestions ha been submitted by flyfishing groups who primarily fish from the shore and are hoping to limit their competition for fish. These rivers can be difficult at spot to fish from shore and a boat is much safer. Ther may be limited optiong to fish from shore as well. I think eliminating the retention of any wild fish on these rivers will accomplish what you are looking for. THe Forks are relies on the fisherman who fish these river and the fishemran that spend the most are the fisherman who fish from boats.
TURIGLIATTO, LARRY   November 03, 2015
NAPA, CA  
Comments:
Please adopt this rule change. I support no fishing from a floating device.
CALHOUN , RORY   November 03, 2015
OLYMPIA , WA  
Comments:
Did you consider the impact to persons with mobility disabilities who can only access the rivers while using a floating device such as a raft, drift boat or jet sled. With a general rule prohibiting fishing from a floating device you take away the only option to fish these streams and rivers if a person can not stand or walk or get to the bank of the river. If there is no bank or limited bank access and the only way to fish the river is by floating device this rule will eliminate any fishing opportunity for a person with a mobility disability to fish. At a minimum, you must allow fishing from the floating device anchored to or pulled up on shore for a persons who cannot leave or get out of the floating device because of a disability. Also consider impact to those with disabilities who might need a internal combustion engine to access these waters who might otherwise not be able to get there by use of human powered means. Your agency needs to consult your ADA Manager about this rule.
GOODWIN, CHESTER L  November 03, 2015
QUILCENE, WA  
Comments:
Yes, I agree with this proposal to prohibit fishing from a floating device.
GOODWIN, HARRIET J  November 03, 2015
QUILCENE, WA  
Comments:
I agree with this proposal to adopt these no fishing from floating device rules.
MCROBERTS, JIM   November 03, 2015
BELLEVUE, WA  
Comments:
I support this
TAMIYASU, LARRY   November 03, 2015
PORTLAND, OR  
Comments:
To further protect the remaining returning salmon and steelhead, I believe we should not allow fishing from a floating device on these selected rivers.
QUINN, DAVID   November 03, 2015
OCEAN SHORES, WA  
Comments:
I recommend rule change #46 for implementation. Thanks
TREAT, NATE   November 03, 2015
OLYMPIA, WA  
Comments:
Again, this is a bad proposal. It's discriminatory toward one group of anglers from another group that wants to get more space on the rivers for themselves. It's wrong and it serves no conservation purpose whatsoever. The impact that it would have on the fishing industry is unacceptable, unnecessary and unreasonable. Not only does it further seek to divide the fishing community, but it's discriminatory against many disabled anglers who cannot access these streams without a boat. Please do not adopt this rule.
JOLLIFFE, MICHAEL A  November 03, 2015
PORTLAND, OR  
Comments:
I strongly support a "no fishing from a floating device" rule for all anglers not legally considered disabled. As a steelhead angler who often travels to the Olympic Peninsula to recreate, I am well aware of the amount of pressure that anglers fishing from boats put on the fishery. Returning fish are afforded very few places to take refuge and rest unmolested. Adopting this rule would provide such an opportunity.
HAMPER, SHELDON   November 03, 2015
MARYSVILLE , WA  
Comments:
Absolutely NO!
EGEE, NICHOLAS S  November 03, 2015
RENTON , WA  
Comments:
This is of no benefit to any sport fisherman. It simply further restricts fishing opportunities. On coastal rivers in particular most of the fishing opportunities are primarily from boats, so to restrict the remaining fisheries we have left doesn't make any sense.
KOWALSKI , DANIEL J  November 03, 2015
SAN DIEGO, CA  
Comments:
Recommend no floating platforms for steelhead angling in impacted areas
WOLCOTT, WILLIAM P  November 03, 2015
SAN FRANCISCO, CA  
Comments:
by eliminating the use of floating devices to hook salmon and steelhead, the pressure and adverse effects associated with pressuring these fish will likely subside substantially giving them a chance to replenish their numbers over time
THOMPSON, VANCE   November 03, 2015
SEATTLE, WA  
Comments:
I strongly support Rule 46. This regulation will provide refuge for steelhead within heavily fished river sections, but experimentation would be needed to determine if the regulation reduces encounters with steelhead and/or facilitates better sharing of the resource. this should be accomplished on one section of a river on an experimental basis.
GOMBISKI, RAYMOND A  November 03, 2015
DUVALL, WA  
Comments:
This is another reduction in fishing opportunity. This rule change is written specifically for the fly angler and keeps non-mobile fishermen from being able to participate. A selective gear regulation would be a much better proposal than dictating the style of fishing.
HUDSON, NOEL   November 03, 2015
KNOXVILLE, TN  
Comments:
I would like to see the experimental ban of fishing from a boat on select streams. I would like to see how this affects fish numbers able to spawn, and how fisherman respond.
PHILLIPS, SEAN L  November 03, 2015
WOODLAND, WA  
Comments:
Please do NOT add this rule to our already perplexed fishing regulations. This will reduce the public fishing access where the river banks are primarily private land, eventually reducing the sale of fishing licenses. There are much, MUCH better ways to improve conservation.
MCCALLUM, AARON   November 03, 2015
ABERDEEN, WA  
Comments:
I don't agree with this proposal because it appears to be advantaged towards fly fishermen more than others. Furthermore, many of these rivers don't have suitable places to fish from the bank in key fish holding areas. I whole heartedly agree with no bait and even barbless hooks in the latter part off wringer steelhead season when there are less opportunities for hatchery reared fish. On rivers that don't have hatchery fish,I have no problem with selective gear rules.
BERNSTEIN, HANS   November 03, 2015
RICHLAND, WA  
Comments:
I support this
GRADY, BEN   November 03, 2015
COLORADO SPRINGS, CO  
Comments:
I believe this regulation will be ineffective at achieving its goal. Reducing the impact of average, weekend anglers fishing from boats has minimal benefit when there are ever increasing numbers of guides choosing to make the Olympic Peninsula rivers their "home base" for the winter months. These guides encounter steelhead on a much more frequent basis than the average angler. Combine this with the associated marketing efforts that come with running a business and an uncontrolled stream of publicity and pressure has been the result - attracting more anglers and more guides to the location. Before trying to limit weekend recreational anglers, something must be done to regulate the number of guides operating on these rivers. It is important to note that guide regulation is a key component in most of the cited fisheries that utilize the no fishing from a moving watercraft rule.
BALL, ROBERT L  November 03, 2015
FORKS, WA  
Comments:
I am a 25 year veteran guide on the bulk of the rivers covered in this table. I live in Forks, and have for over 20 years. The implementation of such a rule would essentially destroy my livelihood as a good number of my long-time guests would no longer utilize my services. Not only would the loss of my income affect the local economy, the associated businesses would also suffer greatly. As a long-time guide, I fish many guests near senior status and my oldest regular client will be 94 this year on the first of his planned four dates. There is no possible way I can expect him to safely wade these waters, and this is the case for a great number of my guests. I appreciate the concern of too much effort on these streams, the point is valid and needs to be addressed. However, the answer is not to pull the carpet out from under those who have devoted our lives to these fisheries. Rather, employ rules that make it difficult for transient guides to descend upon this area in droves.
WILMOTH, JODI   November 03, 2015
BEND, OR  
Comments:
The vast majority of steelhead on the Olympic Peninsula are caught by anglers in boats and the advent of rafts - both large and small - and improved fishing techniques means that there are very few places where steelhead cannot be caught by anglers. Restrictions on boat fishing are likely to become increasingly necessary if angling pressure continues to mount and steelhead runs continue to decline. I support Rule #46; a no fishing from boat rule from Olympic National Park boundary downstream to the WDFW boat launch at Morgan’s Crossing in the upper Hoh River.
ROSE, GEORGE F  November 03, 2015
NEILTON, WA  
Comments:
This proposal is ridiculous. I have older clients that can't walk on gravel bars. What about handicapped people walking on gravel bars. If you are worried about escapement, look at where the biggest percent of the harvest is going. George Rose
LINDQUIST, BRANT J  November 03, 2015
PORT ANGELES, WA  
Comments:
I can't even believe the state would consider this. The tribes must be loving this. Why is it that the sportsman get all the blame. We literally pump millions upon millions of dollars back into the economy. The city of Forks depends on this fishery. Motels fill up, businesses reap the benefits. The sportsman in the state of Washington are losing more and more every year. We are getting fed up. There will be hundreds if not thousands of drift boats sitting in yards, not being used and not being able to be sold. Who would want to buy one if you can't use it. The only user group that has benefited in the last 45 years are the tribes. And they put nothing back into the economy. It's time the state started managing our wildlife rather than letting outside groups manage it.
MOSKOWITZ , MARK A  November 03, 2015
SAN CARLOS , CA  
Comments:
I support proposal 46. It is time to give the mighty steelhead a breather. Fishing from a floatation device is more effective versus swinging/fishing from the shore. Allowing flotation devices to be used only for taxi would greatly reduce pressure on the fish. My experience has been that catch numbers are much higher from a raft or drift boat. One consideration to address anglers' varied interests could be to allow fishing from floatation devices only on "even" numbered days of the month.
MOONAN, TOM H  November 03, 2015
MCCLEARY, WA  
Comments:
There are many different methods of fishing. It's ones own free will to fish however one chooses as long as they do so within the current regulations. With that being said I feel that the special interest groups pushing this proposal and there beliefs and methods on to other people should leave this subject alone. If these special interest groups are so dedicated to protecting OUR FISH maybe they should start with going after the Gillnets in OUR waters since they have such a devastating non selective impact on the resource. Thank you WDFW for your time.
JENKINS, FELTON   November 03, 2015
SAVANNAH, GA  
Comments:
I agree, yes WDFW should implement "no fishing from a floating device" rules on select North Coast streams. Excellent idea to protect holding and spawning adult Salmon and Steelhead through reduced hooking/handling stress and mortality. Thanks, Felton (formerly a WA state resident. If start conserving wild salmonids, I hope to return more frequently, spending money on licenses and other travel expenses out on the OP.)
STARR, JAMES C  November 03, 2015
PORT ANGELES, WA  
Comments:
I support the NCSAG proposal of no fishing from a floating device on the upper Hoh above Morgan's crossing, and would support further restrictions on fishing from boats in other north coast rivers such as Sol Duc and Calawah.
BALSIGER, WAYNE E  November 03, 2015
SEATTLE, WA  
Comments:
Should implement on several streams on pilot/experimental basis to see results.
SHIELDS, ERIC   November 04, 2015
FORKS, WA  
Comments:
This is ANOTHER proposal from someone outside of Clallam County and the vicinity of Forks. The last one was to close down the Snider Steelhead Hatchery, unfortunately it was shut down by people that do not live and breathe here. These people have no idea how much money and food they are taking out of the mouths of the locals here and the Old Timers that used to fish for those Steelhead! This No Floating device proposal is pure uneducated BS, if you want to save the returning Fish talk to the Tribes, not the Sport-fishermen that bring in millions a year in gear, license sales etc... You have no idea how many LOCAL guides you will hurt if this proposal is passed! The Tribe generates 0 dollars by their net fishing, the Sport-fishermen generate millions in sales, licenses and taxes! Tell those quacked out Fly-fishermen to worry about their own Rivers and leave ours alone!!!! All the locals know who is behind this and I tell you they will not receive a warm welcome here!!!!
DWYER, MICHAEL D  November 04, 2015
BAINBRIDGE ISLAND, WA  
Comments:
Reliable statistics show a rapid, unsustainable and unhealthy decline in the numbers and return of steelhead in the Quillayute system (including the Bogachiel, Calawah and Sol Duc), the Hoh and other selected rivers. They also show that the vast majority of steelhead taken are by people fishing from professionally guided boats. To preserve and share the resource more broadly and equitably, fishing from a floating device should be prohibited.
BROWN, CHARLES D  November 04, 2015
TUMWATWER, WA  
Comments:
The economic impact of this would be devastating on local businesses, not just guides. Those of us too old and unsteady to bushwhack and wade will be forced to quit. If you want to pit boat anglers against ban anglers, this will do it. Seems to me, boat anglers tend to reach and therefore fish deeper and heavier water and are less likely to be picking up a spawned off a redd than someone swinging flies ogg a gravel bar. This proposal is nuts.
ZAROFF, BARBARA   November 04, 2015
BAINBRIDGE ISLAND, WA  
Comments:
I would like WDFW to support Rule #46 and to institute a no fishing from boat rule from Olympic National Park boundary downstream to the WDFW boat launch at Morgan’s Crossing in the upper Hoh River
DOWNES, CHRIS C  November 04, 2015
SEATTLE, WA  
Comments:
In opposition to proposals by the NCSAG. Line item comments below: 1). Barbless hook requirement OK. Allowing one treble hook makes no sense when considering survival rates for released fish. Compromise is two single barbless hooks. 2). Bait restrictions seem reasonable. 3). Not allowing retention of One Wild steelhead on these rivers makes absolutely no sense considering THOUSANDS of native and hatchery fish are harvested annual by Tribal gillnets. If numbers of wild fish continue to diminish perhaps gillnets are the root cause not very limited sports retention. 4). Prohibition of boat fishing has shown to be a very slippery slope. Intentions may be fine but implementation soon becomes extreme. Once adopted for the upper Hoh the door is wide open for extension river by river. 5). Prohibitions on motors same as boats. Historically, bank fisherman hate drift boats and jet sleds, drift boaters hate jet sleds and fly fisherman hate everyone else. Will this apply to Tribal boats?
MESSETT, DAX S  November 04, 2015
GRANTS PASS, OR  
Comments:
I don't think you should be able to fish from a floating device on the Hoh, Bogey, or Sol Duc. These rivers are so crowded with guides and recreational anglers fishing from boats, the fish have absolutely no sanctuary water until they get way upriver. Every inch of the water gets covered by highly skilled guides and anglers. The fish are caught multiple times by these numbers oriented anglers, who don't always have the best "catch and release" skills. Clients want to hold the fish up out of the water for the photo, but ends up dropping it in the boat, and the fish ends up floating sideways downriver. I've seen this countless times. Even if you just have sections of these rivers closed to fishing from a boat, it would be a vast improvement to the resource and angling experience for all.
MCQUEEN, MATT   November 04, 2015
HOOD RIVER, OR  
Comments:
I fully support this change. Having fished the upper sections of these rivers over the past 10 years it has been amazing to see the increased traffic. There will often be several boats in the same run. This means wild fish are constantly being harassed and have no part of the river to relax in.
PETERSEN, SHANE   November 04, 2015
SEATTLE, WA  
Comments:
Yes! I fully support this rule change.
BERNERO, GINO   November 04, 2015
GRANTS PASS, OR  
Comments:
fishing from any floatation device on smaller rivers provides no refuge for fish from an ever increasing number of anglers.
CRANE, WILLIAM   November 04, 2015
GIG HARBOR, WA  
Comments:
Riverfront property on these rivers is privately owned this rule would create private fisheries for property owners. This rule would also deny opportunity for disabled, seniors, women, and youth if they cannot fish out of a boat. Hundreds of fishermen and guides would go elsewhere to fish - likely out of state. It would impact business on the Olympic Peninsula and put guides out of business.
STURZA, SAMUEL D  November 04, 2015
BLACK DIAMOND, WA  
Comments:
This proposal is not the answer to the conservation needs of the Olympic Peninsula. Banning boats will only over crowd the banks, and lead to in-experienced bank fisherman walking all over steelhead redds, and therefore killing those fish before they hatch. The answer is so obvious that I am confused why you wouldn't make it your top priority. That answer is making the entire WA coast Selective Gear Rules Only as well as mandatory catch and release on all wild steelhead. Banning the use of barbed hooks, bait, and retaining wild steelhead will go much further in conservation than banning boats. Seems pretty obvious to me what should be done.
GARLICK, LAWRENCE   November 04, 2015
PALO ALTO, CA  
Comments:
I support restrictions on motorized boats on the Sol Duc, Quillayute, Hoh, and Bogachiel rivers during all seasons. I ask WDFW to support Rule #46 by specifically suggesting that they institute a no fishing from boat rule from Olympic National Park boundary downstream to the WDFW boat launch at Morgan’s Crossing in the upper Hoh River. I fish these waters annually with my brother from Port Angeles. Lawrence Garlick
HOLTCAMP, RONALD J  November 04, 2015
OLYMPIA, WA  
Comments:
I oppose Recommendation #46 as it discriminates (perhaps unlawfully)against disabled and less ambulatory people who can best undertake fishing from a boat. Eliminating boats is more likely to result in higher and less desirable concentrations of fishers at the limited public access sites.
ATLAS, WILLIAM I  November 04, 2015
SEATTLE, WA  
Comments:
I would like to comment in strong support of this proposed rule change. Pressure has increased dramatically on these streams over the last 15 years, leading to an erosion in the quality fishery and catch rates that likely pose a conservation threat to wild steelhead. WDFW can meet it's mandate to provide fishing opportunity, while reducing the conservation risk posed by repeated hooking mortality by eliminating fishing from boats in these streams.
ANDERSON, SHERRY   November 04, 2015
PORT ANGELES, WA  
Comments:
I think this is a terrible idea. I can see restricting the days that can be fished from a boat to decrease pressure, but no boats I can't support. And thinking that allowing "bank fishing" is providing alternative opportunity is a poor idea. Bank fishing will mean people walking on the redds, and that's terribly destructive. And the redds are even targeted by some. The majority of boats are rowed by professional guides. They are our moral eyes on our resources. I'd rather have them out there than saying open only to bank fishing. Not good.
PRINCEN, JOSEPH J  November 04, 2015
FEDERAL WAY, WA  
Comments:
Owner-JPS-GUIDESERVICE All in favor for all rule changes stated above EXCEPT rule number #46. DO NOT ADOPT RULE #46!!!Absolutely Not, Limited boat owners to fishing from the shore will only cause detrimental effects to precious small gravel areas were STEELHEAD SPAWN! when the water drops, those gravel areas become the wading zones for GEAR fisherman by the hundreds to stand and dig their boots into areas were steelhead have used as there spawning SANCTUARY!! unless you want anchors of boats dragging through these zones, fisherman lined up shoulder to shoulder possibly FIGHTING over specific places standing in spawning habitat crushing STEELHEAD EMBROS this will not benefit anything but put people ONTOP of the fish. Snagged Lines from shore fisherman will TRIPLE with monofiliment stretching across traveling lanes, clogging fish in broken off gear! Dont take away our means of making a living by floating Senior Citizens down a stretch of river they may drown in by standing
MELDE, PETER B  November 04, 2015
ANCHORAGE, AK  
Comments:
Declining populations of wild steelhead require the modification of regulations to protect this fragile populations. Migrating wild steelhead require areas of refuge where they can rest and feed. This refuge was previously maintained by the absence of fishing pressure in areas that were inaccessible by wading anglers. The variety of new boat types and fishing techniques have allowed pressure to increase in all reaches of streams. A ban on fishing from floating devices in the Upper Hoh River will reduce hooking and handling stress on holding fish and allow WDFW to assess the response by anglers to this type of management action for possible implementation on other heavily impacted streams.
NORENE, ROBERT D  November 04, 2015
RIO OSO, CA  
Comments:
Fishing from a floating device is very effective, but severely impacts steelhead survival and escapement. When fished over spawning beds from floating boats, rafts, tubes, etc. the negative effects on fish populations can be devastating. Please prohibit fishing from floating devices and prohibit the use of motorized water craft on the above listed O.P. rivers.
SCHROEDER, GEORGE H  November 04, 2015
OLYMPIA , WA  
Comments:
Absolutely NOT. When the state can accurately account for Escapement and not just adjust downward based on tribal overfishing, then maybe we can talk about further sport fishing limitations. WDFW needs to be honest with themselves about who actually runs the fisheries in this state. The tribes and politicians have ruined our fisheries. I was a Fisheries Biology major at the U of W back in the 80's. Decided on a different major when I saw the state of our system back THEN. It hasn't gotten any better. Science always seems to take a back seat to tribal interests and commercial special interests. Sportsman ALWAYS come in last. Sick an tired of spending money on a system that is rigged against the largest group, spending the most money. Something is fundamentally unfair here.
SHROPSHIRE, RUSS   November 04, 2015
SEATTLE, WA  
Comments:
I support rule change recommendation # 46 to implement “no fishing from a floating device” rules on select North Coast streams.
TOWNSRND, KEN   November 04, 2015
SEQUIM, WA  
Comments:
I spoke against this proposal several years ago befor the state game comminsion in Olympia and the proposal failed. These groups are just like tax levies. They get voted down and the next year they change alittle wording and resubmit the issue hopeing you will eather not notice or get tired of the issue and pass it. Question; if you do not allow fishing from a floating device where will you have to anchor the boat in order to get out and fish? Answer; in the shallows and on the gravel bars where the fish make their spawning beds. The result is more foot traffic and the dragging of anchores in the area that you should be trying to protect.
DOERING , JERID R  November 05, 2015
OLYMPIA, WA  
Comments:
This is ridiculous. I can get out of the boat and be legal so all this rule does is, AGAIN, take away my shrinking opportunity to catch fish.That i pay for no less. Focus should not be on tax paying, license buying citizens and taking away their opportunity to catch fish. Gillnetting/by catch is what is destroying our "spawning fish" not a few anglers trying to catch them. Work on the problem. Stop wastingnour tax dollars screwing with bandaids and half arse attempts to look like my momey is getting spent well.
ABRAHAM, ROGER W  November 05, 2015
ARLINGTON, WA  
Comments:
I take my family fishing trip to those rivers 4 or 5 times a year. Float trips are the only way I can do that and the only reason I buy 6 fishing liceses a year. If you take thoes float trips away their will be no reason to buy a fishing liceses for family any more and thats just me and my family think about the loss to not only money to your program but to the local communites hotel, food, gas, and guides that live in the area to please a few flyfisherman. multiply my storie by thousands!IN ONE FALSE SWOOP YOU WILL DEVASTATE the economies on the op. Quit taking away all the fishing from your primary money suppliers and giving it to people who offer very little in return. People who are living out of state should not have a say in our states policies on fishing from a floatation device. IT IS THE PEOPLES RESOURCE NOT A CLUBS RESOURCE.
BINDER, JOSEPH   November 05, 2015
SEATTLE, WA  
Comments:
I support this as an experiment to understand the impact that fishing from a boat has vs bank angling. I primarily fish from a boat today but would forfeit that in favor of the fishery benefit if there is one
BOUCHER, MIKE   November 05, 2015
SEQUIM, WA  
Comments:
Totally in favor of using floating devices for "transportation only" and not fish. On the Hoh I would be more in favor of this from the Oxbow camping ground upriver to the National Park boundary. This has been long needed. I would be in favor of a handicapped person able to fish from a boat but not guide a boat.
BASILE, JOHN   November 05, 2015
SANTA CRUZ, CA  
Comments:
This may be more controversial but I agree that this is also needed. If you have ever been on the Hoh river in March it is obvious the impact we have on the fish with constant pressure from angling. The fish are pounded over and over by guide boats. I am a guide and understand we are in the business of catching fish, but at what cost. Please support this and put into law. I thank you for your support.
CUTTER, RALPH   November 05, 2015
NEVADA CITY, CA  
Comments:
Proposed to "protect holding and spawning adult Salmon and Steelhead through reduced hooking/handling stress and mortality." I think that says it all.
HINCKLEY, LAYNE D  November 05, 2015
VERADALE, WA  
Comments:
Proposals number 46 through 48 are nice ideas but are futile in the face of see Native Americans harvest and sell the very same native fish we are trying to give a better chance! NO NETS AND NO SELLING WILD STEELHEAD. GET REAL WILL YOU!!!!!! NOT FISHING FROM A BOAT ON A SECTION OF THE HOH WILL ONLY CONCENTRATE THE BOAT TRAFFIC BELOW THE CLOSED SECTION. YOU GUYS MAY HAVE DEGREES IN WILD LIFE MANAGEMENT BUT WHERE DOERS COMMON SENSE COME IN. I JUST RETURNED FROM THE METHOW STEELHEAD FISHING UNLIKE PAST YEARS DID NOT CATCH A HATCHERY FISH. JUST BEAUTIFUL WILD FISH. SELECTIVE GEAR AND MANDATORY KILLING OF HATCHERY FISH IS DOING A WONDERFUL JOB OF HELPING WILD STEELHEAD. LOTS OF RAFTS ON THE RIVER. FOLLOW A SUCESSFUL PROGRAM FOR THE OLYMPIC PENNINSULA.
CUTTER, DEAN   November 06, 2015
SANTA CRUZ, CA  
Comments:
I think the science should lead our decisions. These fish cannot sustain current pressures. Banning float fishing would be a good first step.
CUTTER, LISA   November 06, 2015
NEVADA CITY, CA  
Comments:
protect holding and spawning adult Salmon and Steelhead through reduced hooking/handling stress and mortality
TIPPETT, JAMES B  November 06, 2015
SEATTLE, WA  
Comments:
Please implement Rule #46 to require no fishing from a floating device on the listed North Coast rivers and specifically institute a no fishing from boat rule from Olympic National Park boundary downstream to the WDFW boat launch at Morgan’s Crossing in the upper Hoh River.
HYDE, KEITH A  November 06, 2015
WASHOUGAL, WA  
Comments:
This proposal is completely one sided and not rational. Sportsman that use traditional gear make up 95% of the license buying folks. This proposal would remove all those sport fishing opportunities. Please do not approve this proposal. There is already a fly fishing restriction on the kalama that is outdated and non sensical that needs to be removed, don't make another day decision please.
CURRY, REID M  November 06, 2015
SEATTLE, WA  
Comments:
I strongly support this rule change and the adoption of no fishing from a floating device on select OP rivers. Angling pressure on the OP is increasing, while wild steelhead runs in many of the rivers are declining. Much of this increased fishing pressure is coming from boat anglers. Fishing from a boat means that there is virtually nowhere in our rivers where it is safe for a steelhead to take refuge. As a result, an overwhelming percentage of the the overall steelhead run is being caught and handled. Many fish are caught multiple times. Over handling of steelhead negatively impacts their ability to successfully spawn. By eliminating fishing from a floating device, more fish will be able to make it to their spawning grounds unmolested. This will mean a greater steelhead population in future years. As a professional fishing guide, this will directly help my business and help put Washington on the map of top global fishing destinations.
HASTINGS, KURT E  November 06, 2015
KENT, WA  
Comments:
To WDFW, I would urge you to please to stop the consideration of adopting rule change# 46. "no fishing from floating device" rules on select streams. Many guides count on these rivers for their livelihood and many other sport anglers enjoy fishing these rivers every year. Adopting this rule change would limit access to these popular rivers and cause greater fishing pressure in concentrated areas causing a decrease in the quality of these fisheries. these impacts could hurt the economy which is already having Issues. I do agree that conservation of our Salmon and Steelhead stocks are very important and I would also urge you to look at other avenues of conservation that we greatly need. Thank you, Kurt Hastings Avid outdoorsmans
SIMMS, MATT   November 06, 2015
MISSOULA, MT  
Comments:
I support these proposed changes.
ANDERSEN, CHRIS J  November 06, 2015
BAINBRIDGE ISLAND, WA  
Comments:
I like this proposal for the fact that it gives the fish some refuge water. From the boat on a river the size of our North Coast rivers, no stone is left unturned and with the ever increasing and constant parade of boats coming down all of those rivers, the fish have no place to hide. We already know that we're catching and handling the bulk of the returning fish coming back on an annual basis. No fishing from a boat in certain stretches would help minimize that impact, but my fear is that it will simply put that boat pressure on a different section of the same river, or on one of the other rivers, and then what have we achieved....it's like robbing Peter to pay Paul. And, I think it also just serves to alienate other anglers who do like to fish from the boat. If this proposed reg were to pass, I would be in favor of doing it on the Upper Hoh as proposed...as it is the Hoh fish that need the most help.
FISHER, FRANK P  November 06, 2015
BELLEVUE, WA  
Comments:
I do not believe this recommendation should be implemented. This proposal takes fishing opportunity from some angling methods and it will just push boat traffic to other areas. A better plan to reduce encounters is to limit the number of guides - perhaps make guide requirements more stringent for out of state guides.
SANDOR, RICK   November 07, 2015
LEWISTOWN, MT  
Comments:
I would like to appose this proposal as written as it will only affect sport fisherman and continue to permit the treaty "fisherman" to overharvest hatchery and native fish stocks.
OZUNA, DAVE   November 07, 2015
SEATTLE, WA  
Comments:
Sirs, I am opposed to any "no fishing from a floating device" sections on the the North Coast rivers. This regulation is being submitted by one specific group of fisherman for their benefit only; those who think the only way to catch a steelhead is by swinging a fly! If the goal is to help survival of the upper Hoh fish, close the river to everyone above Morgan's. Also, I am unable to walk the river bank due to spinal injury. The only way I can fish is sitting from a boat. It is highly discriminatory to limit access to those who are able to walk while shutting out those who can not. Thank you, Dave Ozuna
COLLECCHI, PATRICK W  November 07, 2015
SOUTH PRAIRIE , WA  
Comments:
I believe this proposal is wrong and the groups pushing it are trying to deter people from guiding on these rivers so that they have less competition
ROBINTON, CHARLES   November 07, 2015
ROSEVILLE, CA  
Comments:
I support this rule change. The current state of affairs on many steelhead rivers in the west has too many anglers fishing for too few steelhead. Compounding this issue is that fishing from the boat leaves very little sanctuary for the fish. I've watched anglers in boats row back up and circle a good pool several times to hook fish. There can be little doubt that this type of activity is harmful to a delicate resource. On rivers where bank fishing opportunity is plentiful, let's give everyone a fair shake and limit angling to the shore, using boats for transportation only. This will make the angling experience more enjoyable for all and give the fish a little relief from the constant tremendous pressure of boat after boat side drifting or backtrolling over them.
FOSTER, BOBBY   November 07, 2015
BELLEVUE, WA  
Comments:
I support this rule change and will provide further testimony on October 14th.
ROHRBACH, CALDWELL J  November 07, 2015
SEATTLE, WA  
Comments:
I support this rule change!
SHARF, JOHN D  November 07, 2015
KENMORE, WA  
Comments:
As an elderly and partially disabled angler, I find this proposal will limit my opportunity to access rivers for recreational fishing.
GUERRA, RON   November 07, 2015
MERCER ISLAND, WA  
Comments:
I support this rule change.
GRAHN , GARY E  November 07, 2015
PORT ANGELES, WA  
Comments:
There are a very few stretches on the north coast rivers that this rule proposal would be fair to all residents of the state and not make advantage for one user group. If the rule is needed to be implemented truthfully for the fish, then those stretches of river need to be closed for all fishing.
GENTRY, JAKE   November 07, 2015
SEATTLE, WA  
Comments:
Please institute a no fishing from boat rule from Olympic National Park boundary downstream to the WDFW boat launch at Morgan’s Crossing in the upper Hoh River.
ABRAMS, TERRY R  November 07, 2015
ANACORTES, WA  
Comments:
Agree
MYHRES, ED   November 08, 2015
MOUNT VERNON, WA  
Comments:
This may seem like a good idea but it really isn't. I have been a bank fisherman all my life. It is getting difficult because of trespass laws. If a person has to stand on land to fish he or she may be trespassing. The state rules for trespassing are severe. Staying on waters of the state is the only sure way to not trespass.
GRAY, PHILIP M  November 08, 2015
PORT ANGELES, WA  
Comments:
As a guide in this area, this proposal presents a direct threat to my business. I have many elderly clients that would have severe issues entering and exiting the boat to fish. Hands down this would present a huge safety issue for any and all clients, as well as changes to insurances as some insurance policies would cover the liability within vehicle and/or boat accidents. There are some that do not cover when the person exits our boat or vehicle. Now lets think about the fish- making the hoh above morgans fishing from the bank only just as an example, the amount of spawning gravel up there is a lot. This rule would threaten the integrity of the spawn as I have personally seen MANY bank anglers walking through tail outs or side channels to cross the river, walking directly over the tops of VISIBLE reds. Would closing fishing from a boat actually save the fish more then having additional people walking on reds? I don't think so.
FULMER, JOEL   November 08, 2015
SNOHOMISH, WA  
Comments:
Do not implement this rule. Some of these rivers do not have enough bank to allow fishing many of the holes. For instance, the Clearwater river below copper mine bottom campground. The river has steep banks which is unfishable without a boat. This rule will not help restore steelhead runs. Please do not consider this rule.
MILLER, BRYNAN M  November 08, 2015
PORT ORCHARD, WA  
Comments:
I think this is a progressive rule and will provide wild steelhead with a better chance of making it to spawning grounds. Any and all floating devices are extremely efficient tools for catching fish. People see this and think no boats at all. But it didn't say this you can take your boat out and still fish your favorite hole but it just has to be from shore. I like this idea and strongly support this idea and would talk for it in any situation.
JULIAN, AUGUST   November 08, 2015
BAINBRIDGE ISLAND, WA  
Comments:
I think this would be a great step towards realizing the potential of our West End steelhead fishery. The fish that make it past the nets are hooked too much while upriver. Its too easy to hook too many fish out of the boat. The ridiculous number of fish caught by a small number of boat anglers needs to be a thing of the past. Level the field and let everybody work a little harder to catch their fish. There are too many steelhead fisherman and not enough steelhead to go around, the fairest way to cut back on pressure is to take away part of the boat fisherman's advantage. Nobody needs to hook 5-10 wild winter steelhead in a day yet people do it all the time out of boats. Let them get used to a couple fish being a good day and give the fish a break!
WHITE, DAVID   November 08, 2015
SEQUIM, WA  
Comments:
I am not in favor of this rule change. It is too restrictive.
PECK, DANIEL H  November 08, 2015
BOW, WA  
Comments:
A "no fishing from a floating device" rule should be implemented on all rivers and streams with low fish returns, and definitely on these coastal rivers. This rule will cut fish mortality more than any other rule besides closing the river to fishing. I would love to see it on my home river system the Skagit. Anglers get an opportunity to fish, but the fish are allowed to have a chance to spawn without being hooked and played several times.
BASILE, TEAL S  November 09, 2015
SANTA CRUZ, CA  
Comments:
This should be passed!!!
BRENNAN, ANGELO X  November 09, 2015
LAKE OSWEGO, OR  
Comments:
Let's do whatever it takes to get more salmon and steelhead to their spawning beds. The only concern I have is about additional side effects like bank erosion and crowding.
EDWARDS, CODY   November 09, 2015
PRICE, UT  
Comments:
I feel that this change would affect our populations positively. It is imperative that these fish have areas of refuge as angler pressure increases. I feel that taking away the method of fishing from a craft would reduce stress on anadromous fish as they return to their headwaters. With reduced stress we might have a higher success rate on those returning to spawn.
RADLEIN, JOSH   November 09, 2015
PLEASANT PR, WI  
Comments:
I agree that this type of angling has taken on a new type of traffic and over-fishing of a good number of rivers in the PNW. Removing the number of watercraft/floating devices from rivers will allow more chance for the fish to move up and spawn, offering the opportunity for greater returns. Please adopt this rule
RINNERT, BRUCE A  November 09, 2015
MC LEOD, MT  
Comments:
I support this proposal. Even on my home waters of Montana, many of our streams are in need of such regulation. The explosion of people is putting such extreme pressure on the fisheries. Thanks for considering my comments
PAPP, BERNIE   November 09, 2015
WHITEFISH, MT  
Comments:
I am opposed to this recommendation as it could well restrict access for anglers with impiarments.
JONES, JOHN M  November 09, 2015
SAMMAMISH, WA  
Comments:
I support this measure.
KELLY, LUKE   November 09, 2015
SEATTLE, WA  
Comments:
As a past fishing guide, current fishery biologist, angler, and steward, I strongly recommend that this proposed rule (#46)be implemented. It just makes sense. There is so much angler pressure on steelhead in this area, and science has proven that many fish are being caught more than once. I know opposition to this proposed rule is strong, but fact is, people are naturally resistant to change. If overall management of wild steelhead doesn't show some real sea change, we will all have to get used to change... no wild steelhead. There is so much evidence with his... success = British Columbia steelhead management. failure = Atlantic salmon management in eastern US just 50 years ago. Please impliment this rule as a pilot test, and when there are positive effects, assign other specific sections as well to no fishing from floating devices.
WESTLUND, ROGER G  November 09, 2015
SNOHOMISH, WA  
Comments:
I strongly support this proposal, it would mirror the successful management regulations on the Skeena system in British Columbia. The entire coast from the Columbia R. north should have this regulation. Including the Willipa Bay, Grays Harbor and Queets river systems.
GEYER, CARL A  November 09, 2015
CONCORD, MA  
Comments:
Fly fishing catch and release for winter steelhead. No commercial fishing for winter steelhead and rainbows Boats only for transportation
MILLS, JOHN C  November 09, 2015
LOUISVILLE, KY  
Comments:
As a native Washingtonian, I simply cannot agree with this proposed change. You are taking away the recreation rights from residents, not to mention the loss of tourism.
TITLAND, MILES R  November 10, 2015
LAKE STEVENS, WA  
Comments:
With the current conditions facing the recovery of Wild Steelhead on the Coastal rivers, there is no reason anglers need to be able to fish from floating devices. These steelhead need places to be able to hide from anglers/nets/predators and fishing from boats makes this almost impossible. When 10+ boats are floating any given stretch of these rivers, it would be hard for a steelhead to hide and rest anywhere in the river. All the boat pressure gives these fish far to much angler pressure (in addition to other predation) to allow these populations of fish to recover to the best of their ability.
GUERIN, MICHAEL   November 10, 2015
HELENA, MT  
Comments:
Highly endorse to increase the overall fishing conditions.
ROSENBERG, JOHN   November 10, 2015
TUMWATER, WA  
Comments:
This regulation is in effect on the Deschutes River in Oregon and has helped greatly in rebuilding the wild steelhead and trout population there despite heavy fishing pressure. An exception can be made for anglers with a handicapping condition or over a certain age (75? 70?). Again, if the commission is serious about protecting and enhancing the OP fishery instead of fighting over the last fish, this is the kind of regulation that makes sense.
HELM, JUSTIN B  November 10, 2015
MCKENZIE BRIDGE, OR  
Comments:
I believe that this proposal is very important and needs to be enforced. Fishing over spawning salmon and steelhead is not only unethical, but also flat out lazy. I believe that this proposal is very important to the life and sustainability of the Olympic Peninsula rivers.
LARSON , BRYAN   November 10, 2015
SHELTON , WA  
Comments:
Please do not implement this, it will add pressure to the lower sections of the river systems. Opportunity should not be lost for those who are fishing those areas.
BOYD, LEWIS   November 10, 2015
EVERETT, WA  
Comments:
Against This will crowd the masses into limited bank access.
HART, JIM   November 10, 2015
FORKS, WA  
Comments:
So no boats above morgans crossing??? Who fishes up there?? out of towners is all. Most bank fishermen fish below the canyon. So the guides get the rest, really fair people...they have taken over the whole area, who's making the new rules...the guides!!!!!!!!!!! how fair is that? NO, out of state guides This is BULL SHIT that the guides are running the whole program...it's all about the money is it. A pissed off bank fisherman. Jim Hart
MAK, HANS M  November 10, 2015
SHELTON, WA  
Comments:
Against! I don't believe this is the thing to help wild gamefish survive. Perhaps anglers should be required to release all wild steelhead statewide. It would allow for a more uniform regulation. I served in a limited war. I'm looking at something that does not give one faith the WDFW is looking out for our public resource.
ABRAHAMSE, BILL   November 10, 2015
SPOKANE, WA  
Comments:
I support this rule change to help protect wild steelhead.
STRASSBURG, GARY A  November 10, 2015
OAK HARBOR, WA  
Comments:
No two ways about it... Wild Steelhead need sanctuary. Even though this rule will effect more people that use the rivers as guides and pretty much all boat anglers, it is a step in the right direction. Limiting the ability of boat traffic to hit the same holes over and over again in the same runs to catch the same fish over and over again is a change that should be made. Like I said before, since it will effect a lot of boat anglers, maybe an experiment on one river to see how the rule will work might be a good start. The days of C&Ring 20 to 30 fish a day needs to end on the OP until the runs are more viable. That is easily accomplished by using a floating device.
MARTINI, PAUL A  November 10, 2015
SEATTLE, WA  
Comments:
I've spent hundreds, perhaps thousands of hours fishing from drift boats on rivers throughout the pacific northwest. I've also floated rivers where fishing from the boat was prohibited. It should be noted that the rivers that hold this restriction are some of the better rivers to fish for both the quantity and quality of sport fishing experience. Given the broad range of Olympic Peninsula river systems, this proposal presents an opportunity to experiment with a proven conservation measure on part of one system and the ability to evaluate it's effectiveness. I support # 46. Adopt "no fishing from floating device" rules on select streams
SCHMITZ, JIM P  November 10, 2015
TACOMA, WA  
Comments:
I am an avid steelhead angler and am writing in support of this proposal. We need to get the pressure off these fish and reduce the constant pounding they are facing each and every day. With the Puget Sound closures there are more boats than ever on our coastal streams. Using the floating devices to get from place to place is one thing but parking on top of these fish and pounding them day after day is not going to help. I understand that many people are not comfortable with this rule proposal but until we see things improve it needs to be passed. The fish just can't successfully spawn when they are stressed beyond belief. The way I see it, I'd rather float from place to place to fish, than not fish at all.
FRIEDRICH, ANDREW   November 10, 2015
PORT TOWNSEND, WA  
Comments:
I strongly support no fishing from a floating device for selected rivers or portions of rivers with heavy fishing pressure. I particularly support applying this rule to the upper Hoh. The pressure there is indeed heavy and perhaps such a rule will at least moderate that pressure. But most importantly, the fish need to have at least some places of relative safety from the endless parade of boats that leave virtually no refuge untouched.
HOUGH, RYAN L  November 10, 2015
BREMERTON , WA  
Comments:
I feel that all of these rule changes would be in the best interest of what wild stocks we have left. Next is getting the hatchery steelhead out of the breeding reds of wild fish!!!
FLOYD, JOE   November 10, 2015
SEQUIM, CL  
Comments:
I support prohibiting fishing from floating devices
COHN, NOAH B  November 10, 2015
SEATTLE, WA  
Comments:
Please help save wild fish. Too valuable of a resource for this area.
GREENWOOD, MARK   November 10, 2015
POULSBO, WA  
Comments:
I support a no fishing from boat rule from Olympic National Park boundary downstream to the WDFW boat launch at Morgan's Crossing in the upper Hoh River. There is only one way to determine of this will help steelhead mortality, implement the rule, collect data, and make final decisions baaed on the data analysis.
HOUGH, TRENT M  November 10, 2015
BREMERTON, WA  
Comments:
I believe that fishing from boats gives fisherman more time then really needed to catch the after hooked and gives them to much water to fish.
MILLER, PHYLLIS J  November 10, 2015
AMANDA PARK, WA  
Comments:
I've read the various proposals, the Hoh River, the Bogachiel, and the Sol Duc. I've always been in support of enhancement and protection of salmon and the wild steelhead but see no validity in prohibiting fishing from a floating device. A proposal can be written up and stated as fact but that doesn't mean that it actually is fact. In my advanced age, bank fishing is no longer a viable option and looking at the youth, the elderly and the disabled, these proposals will curtail or at least hinder this sector of the population in what has been a privilege and option. From what I understand there is little or no boat fishing on the Salmon River in Grays Harbor and the Snahapish River in Jefferson County. The holding and spawning ground on the Quinault River is basically above the designated boat fishing so these three rivers are essentially not affected in this issue. If there is actually an issue here it would be "fishing" and not "fishing from a floating device." I'm opposed.
EHLERT, CHUCK   November 10, 2015
WOODINVILLE, WA  
Comments:
I fish rivers that already have this rule and believe this would create a healthier population of fish from year to year. I completely support this rule change.
BELLOWS, WILLIAM   November 10, 2015
SEQUIM, WA  
Comments:
no boat fishing upper Hoh River
DYER, JONATHAN H  November 11, 2015
RENO, NV  
Comments:
I support this change. The best example of this and it's success is the Deschutes River in Oregon. Please implement this change. Thank you, Jonathan Dyer Reno, NV
PETERSON, PAUL   November 11, 2015
THUNDER BAY, ON  
Comments:
Will help with survival of spawiing populations of fish, multile catch and release of the same fish that occurs from certain kinds of fishing near spawing habitiat will be reduced and mortality associated with the same will be reduced.
BEST, DOUG   November 11, 2015
BOZEMAN, MT  
Comments:
I am in favor of the "no fishing from a floating device" rule on these streams.
TAYLOR, MICHAEL J  November 11, 2015
PORT ORCHARD, WA  
Comments:
This is the craziest idea ever. These waters are "navigable" and we pay a lot of "sportman's fees" to fish these waters from floating devices, because we don't have access to the waters because of limited access. This does nothing but close even more access to great fishing in Washington state. We "sportsmen" say no to this proposal.
KLEPPS, TODD D  November 11, 2015
BEAVER, WA  
Comments:
I think that this proposal is a very bad idea. This is an attempt by the wild steelhead coalition to dictate the rules here in Washington. These people don't live here but because they are organized and have money for backing they want the rivers on the Olympic Peninsula to be their personal play ground. Not everyone is a fly fisherman that practices catch and release. My favorite part of steelhead season is fishing for hatchery steelhead on the Calawah River. I just purchased a raft so I can take my two young sons fishing. This with be all for nothing if this passes as I can not afford to travel long distances to fish another river. If you want to do something good, close the upper sections of the rivers for all fishing. This way the wild steelhead can spawn without being harassed. The wild steelhead coalition talks about wanting to save the wild steelhead but they are the same people that are in the upper rivers trying to catch these fish and harassing them while they spawn.
TOWNLEY, BRYAN   November 11, 2015
NORTH BEND, WA  
Comments:
This rule proposal is absurd. It is being introduced by the fly fishing anglers and it goes against other user groups. All individuals that purchase licenses for these fisheries should be able to fish from both the bank and from a boat. There is also a lot of water that can only be fished from a boat. The fly fishing anglers know this hence the reason why they are proposing this regulation. THEY ARE TRYING TO REMOVE CERTAIN USER GROUPS FROM FISHING ALTOGETHER.
KOENIG, BRIAN   November 11, 2015
BOZEMAN, MT  
Comments:
This is a great idea to lessen the hook rate and pressure on Steelhead, Salmon and Rainbow trout. The Deschutes has had this regulation for years and it makes for a less crowded, more enjoyable experience on the river while angling. It also will help the fish have chance to get to their spawning grounds without going through a gantlet of boats dragging every inch of the river. I believe if we don't start regulating the fishing pressure on the Olympic Pennisula rivers there will eventually be no fish left to catch.
KETTEL, BRYAN   November 11, 2015
CLE ELUM, WA  
Comments:
I support implementing no fishing from a floatable device on the Upper Hoh River.
WELLS, MICHAEL E  November 11, 2015
MOSCOW, ID  
Comments:
I want the WDFW to experiment with a "no fishing from floating device" rule in the upper Hoh River. The vast majority of steelhead on the Olympic Peninsula are caught by anglers in boats and the advent of rafts - both large and small - and improved fishing techniques means that there are very few places where steelhead cannot be caught by anglers. While anglers could not fish from a boat in this reach of the Hoh under the proposed rule, they could still use boats for transportation. Restrictions on boat fishing are likely to become increasingly necessary if angling pressure continues to mount and steelhead runs continue to decline. The short reach in the Upper Hoh provides an opportunity to experiment with the rule and see how anglers respond. Please support Rule #46 by instituting a no fishing from boat rule from Olympic National Park boundary downstream to the WDFW boat launch at Morgan’s Crossing in the upper Hoh River. Thank you
CAVALERI, BRIAN   November 11, 2015
BEAVERTON, OR  
Comments:
I agree with no fishing from a floating device in the Upper Hoh due to the over fishing of the Steelhead spawning grounds. However, to simply due away with fishing from a boat all together is a poor decision. I myself, am fine with that notion.....however, we need to consider the many guides (many whom have families) that profit from anglers who can only fish from boats. Many of these guided fishermen are not able to wade the rivers to effectively fish for Steelhead. I think a better proposition would be to close a certain or certain rivers each season to fishing from boats. That would then allow guides/fishermen to choose what venture suits them the best. This allows for dispersion of people and more than likely the guides that "need" to float will find themselves on some out of boat wade trips as well. Good fishing guides are highly adaptive and find many ways to make fishing work for their guests. In time, "float guides" will be fishing both ends of the program. Wading and floating.
DEPRIEST, DALE   November 11, 2015
SAMMAMISH, WA  
Comments:
Please limit fishing from a floating device. To be used as transportation only.
JORGENSEN, RICHARD K  November 11, 2015
HIDDEN VALLEY LAKE , CA  
Comments:
Regarding Rule # 46 - I have been fishing many of the rivers in the OP for a number of years and have seen a steady decline in returning fish and significant increase in fishing pressure. The vast majority of steelhead on the OP are caught by anglers in boats and the advent of rafts - both large and small - and improved fishing techniques means that there are very few places where steelhead cannot be caught by anglers. While anglers could not fish from a boat in this reach of the Hoh under the proposed rule, they could still use boats for transportation. Restrictions on boat fishing are likely to become increasingly necessary if angling pressure continues to mount and steelhead runs continue to decline. The short reach in the Upper Hoh provides an opportunity to experiment with the rule
VANDERPOOL, CHELSEA K  November 11, 2015
BOZEMAN, MT  
Comments:
I support a "no angling from a floating device" rule on the Upper Hoh (specifically from the Olympic National Park boundary to Morgan's Crossing) to reduce angling pressure on wild steelhead. While boats could still be used for transportation, it would allow stretches and pockets to act as safe resting areas for fish traveling the river.
BROUGHTON, DENNIS M  November 11, 2015
LEAVENWORTH, WA  
Comments:
I am not for this regulation... if the other regulations, catch and release and selective gear fishing regulations are implemented and adhered to it seems our fish populations will do well. Maybe go a while with the regs and determine if no fishing from a floating device is then required.
DENTON, KEITH P  November 11, 2015
SEQUIM, WA  
Comments:
I support the proposal to adopt no fishing from a floating device for the Hoh river above Morgan's. I am a steelhead fisherman who uses both fly and gear. I am also a professional fisheries biologist who specializes in enumerating adult salmon, including steelhead. It is no secret that, coast wide, steelhead populations are in decline, with the most striking example being the Hoh river population. Quite simply, these fish are being loved to death. In some years the entire escapement is caught and released. There are too many of them being caught. We need to reduce angler encounters with these fish. This policy is a good way to try out a new regulation and assess it's impact without drastically changing the regulation landscape. I for one would be happy to catch a few hoh river steelhead from the bank each year. Anglers encountering 5-10 fish per float is not a sustainable situation. Something must be done.
BLANKENSHIP, ROBERT   November 11, 2015
LONG BEACH, CA  
Comments:
Steelhead seek protection in nooks and crannies of the river, and boats allow us fishermen to zero in on those spots with skillful presentations. Prohibiting fishing from boats, in a limited number of areas, will allow fish refuge from human pressure but still encourage boat access in other places.
KNUDSEN, STEVE   November 11, 2015
MUKILTEO, WA  
Comments:
Please adopt the "no fishing from floating device" rules on the Olympic Peninsula rivers
SAMUELSON, WALLACE E  November 11, 2015
BAINBRIDGE IS., WA  
Comments:
I am 75 yrs old and a native of our region. I fished Olympic Peninsula waters for 65 yrs and have witnessed a steady fish decline on many rivers. I strongly support # 46, especially on the upper Hoh. I also support catch & release on all native rainbow & steelhead on all OP rivers......as well as restrictive great regulations. Wonderful, native fish must be protected. Sincerely, W. Edwin Samuelson
BIRKNER, ROBERT O  November 11, 2015
SHORELINE, WA  
Comments:
This is definitely a worthwhile experiment to try to gain valuable data. I have not fished this area personally so I cannot support a long term ruling until more information is collected.
SLONIKER, GERRY   November 11, 2015
STANWOOD, WA  
Comments:
Please implement "no fishing from a floating device" rules on select North Coast streams and to protect holding and spawning adult Salmon and Steelhead through reduced hooking/handling. Thank You Sir, Gerry Sloniker
MARION, WAYNE R  November 11, 2015
OLYMPIA, WA  
Comments:
Please experiment with the 'No fishing from a floating device' rule on the Upper Hoh River. Thank You.
CARROTHERS, DAVID   November 11, 2015
ELLENSBURG, WA  
Comments:
I am not sure I am in agreement with Proposal #46, I think the comment that " . . . Virtually every piece of holding water and spawning riffle is now fished hard and repeatedly by anglers in boats . . ." is probably true. My concern is that at times the river level and flows would prohibit safely fishing while wading. I have mixed feelings about this proposal, but in the long run, it would probably benefit the fishery. I am sure you will get objections from gear fisherman, this is a tough one.
COLLINS, BRUCE P  November 11, 2015
STANWOOD, WA  
Comments:
I am in favor of rule change #46.
STOLTZE, RICHARD   November 11, 2015
LA PINE, OR  
Comments:
I agree with proposed rule change #46 in full and without exception.
OYA, GLEN   November 11, 2015
JACKSON, WY  
Comments:
also, for #47 proposal no motorized boats. only oars.
BALDWIN, KIM AND CLAUDIA M  November 11, 2015
BREMERTON, WA  
Comments:
We oppose this proposal to prohibit fishing from a floating device on the coastal rivers. The coastal rivers have only a few gravel bars that you can fish from and being in our 60's we can no longer wade waist beep on a river safely. This proposal would totaly exclude my parents whom are in their 80's, and not disabled, from fishing at all. Furthermore being a property owner on one of the rivers included in this proposal where a gravel bar does exist, my property could become overrun with trespassers seeking access to the gravel bar. I feel this proposed rule is trying to make steelhead fishing an elite fishery thus eliminatinga large number of fisherman that are getting up in their years but would still like to be on the river. Thank you for the opportunity to comment on this proposal, Kim and Claudia Baldwin
MUNSON, BILL   November 11, 2015
EDMONDS, WA  
Comments:
I agree
JOHNSTON, ROBERT M  November 11, 2015
BELLINGHAM, WA  
Comments:
I support prohibiting fishing from a floating device on the upper Hoh River. It's time to get serious about saving wild fish, and especially steelhead. I grew up in the PNW and have lived here most of my life. Over 60 years I've seen fish runs decline drastically. A variety of factors have contributed, but if we don't save native fish now, we will likely lose them forever. Get real, get serious, do it. Thanks, R.J.
FRIEDRICH, ANDREW   November 11, 2015
PORT TOWNSEND, WA  
Comments:
In addition to my prior comments, I support no motorized boats on the Olympic Peninsula rivers. Since I don't see another place to put this - I support limiting the number of guides on the major Peninsula rivers. Every winter season the area is flooded with out of state guides on top of the many in state and local guides. There needs to be some limitation of numbers and I would hope those could also be applied to the benefit of the local and in state guides.
MCGEE, MICHAEL D  November 11, 2015
OLYMPIA, WA  
Comments:
I strongly support the adoption of rules 45 through 49 for sportfishing rule changes in 2016-2017 as proposed by WA DFW and advocated by the North Coast Steelhead Advisors Group. Mike McGee
BRANHAM, CHARLES   November 11, 2015
BAINBRIDGE ISLAND, WA  
Comments:
Set up a no fishing from floating devises rule as recommended. Float devises for transport only. You get out and wade or stand on a rock to fish the river.
SASELLI, VERALD   November 11, 2015
PUYALLUP, WA  
Comments:
I support Rule #46 by specifically suggesting that they institute a no fishing from boat rule from Olympic National Park boundary downstream to the WDFW boat launch at Morgan’s Crossing in the upper Hoh River.
COX, JAMES W  November 11, 2015
PORTLAND , OR  
Comments:
Please institute a no fishing from boat rule from Olympic National Park boundary downstream to the WDFW boat launch at Morgan’s Crossing in the upper Hoh River.
TIBBETT, ROB S  November 11, 2015
SUNDERLAND, VT  
Comments:
these fish need some breaks from the angling pressure. We need to make some sacrifices to keep the rivers open to fishing and this is one way we can do that.
LEE, RICK   November 11, 2015
HONOLULU, HI  
Comments:
I am in support of a total ban on motorized boats and fishing from the boat or other floating devices on the entire Hoh River system.
ADNEY, JOSEPH S  November 11, 2015
KALISPELL, MT  
Comments:
I would support Rule #46 instituteing a no fishing from boat rule from Olympic National Park boundary downstream to the WDFW boat launch at Morgan’s Crossing in the upper Hoh River.
ST.CLAIR, LUCAS   November 11, 2015
PORTLAND, ME  
Comments:
I think that there should be no fishing from floating devises on the above rivers.
HARRIS, PAM & JIM   November 11, 2015
HELENA, MT  
Comments:
We have been fishing the Olympic Peninsula for steelhead and salmon for over 30 years. Over that time we have seen the numbers of fish decline and the number of anglers increase (substantially). With that increase came a lot more boats and guides and over the years we've seen some pretty obnoxious things with boaters (and guides) who do not understand river etiquette. That will only increase as more fisherman fish these rivers. At least having one section of one river for no fishing from a boat rule is a start, though a push to educate boaters and fisherman to river etiquette might be even better. Thanks for allowing public comment on this proposal.
MYLIUS, KYLE   November 11, 2015
MERCER ISLAND, WA  
Comments:
Please implement the "no fishing from floating device" rule on the Upper Hoh. This will allow all stakeholders to study the efficacy of the experimental regulation to determine if it should be permanently adopted on the Hoh and other watersheds. We need to embrace new ideas and are running out of time to find effective solutions or risk seeing steelhead and other fisheries become further threatened by extinction. We are have skin in the game and must work together to create new solutions and implement them. In the case of "no fishing from floating devices", there seem to be little if any chance of unintended negative consequences. No harm, no foul if it proves to be an ineffective arrow in the recovery quiver.
PAULI, JOHN   November 11, 2015
SEATTLE, WA  
Comments:
Walking the bank is the best way to (exercise) and fish. Let the spawning fish spawn. We do not need "bass machines" on these beautiful wild rivers. I support this proposal. We need to care about future generations more than our own current fishing opportunities. There are many ways to non-consumptively enjoy the outdoors. Let's learn and practice a few more. John Pauli, Seattle
ALLEN, JOHN   November 11, 2015
PHOENIX, AZ  
Comments:
I support the rule change.
OLANIE, ERIC   November 11, 2015
HANSVILLE, WA  
Comments:
Absolutely in favor of this proposal. I know it will never be implemented. So at least you should do so on the most valuable and fragile segments of rivers. The upper Hoh from the Oly Park to down to Morgan's Crossing would be one. The Calawah, Clearwater, Dickey, Salmon, and Snahapish would be right for the entire river length.
BROOKS, RICHARD J  November 11, 2015
BELLEVUE, WA  
Comments:
supportive of Rule #46
DUNPHY, LOGAN   November 11, 2015
SEATTLE, WA  
Comments:
great idea to prohibit boat fishing--works great on high pressure rivers like the deschutes
BOLAND, MICHAEL F  November 11, 2015
AVIS, PA  
Comments:
I am a tourist sportsman I support new rules which would limit boat access for fishing on the Hoh river from Olympic Park to the WDFW boat launch at Morgan's Crossing. This would greatly relieve the pressure and resulting over fishing that results in these waters. Additionally I support the restriction of "float device" usage on these waters as well. Thank you for your thoughtful consideration of my views in the interest of preserving this great asset and natural resource. Michael Boland
QUIN, JOHN   November 11, 2015
MARSTONS MILLS, MA  
Comments:
Again this is to promote more fish by taking fewer fish, which means MORE fish.
PENNY, JOHN D  November 11, 2015
POULSBO, WA  
Comments:
I ask WDFW to support rule 46
ROBINSON, JESS S  November 11, 2015
MARYSVILLE , WA  
Comments:
I do not support this!
BENNETT, BRIAN   November 11, 2015
FEDERAL WAY, WA  
Comments:
I strongly support the rule change to limit fishing from a floating device. I believe this rule proposal was amended to only apply to a section of the Hoh River? I support the change on the Hoh but would also support the limitations on other North Coast Rivers.
MARTIN, GABE   November 11, 2015
BATTLE GROUND, WA  
Comments:
Many of the rivers have adequate bank access, and boards can easily pull off to the shore. With the dramatically increased fishing pressure it is an unfair advantage of fisherman to put in anchor at their favorite " honey" spot and intercept any passing fish.
KELLY, JOSEPH M  November 11, 2015
FERNDALE , WA  
Comments:
Please approve.
JOHNSON, BRIAN   November 11, 2015
SAN FRANCISCO, CA  
Comments:
I support this proposal. I am from CA but I fish the OP every year, and it is a national treasure as well as an economic boon to WA. Thank you for considering my comments.
SCHWABAUER, THOMAS   November 11, 2015
MOSES LAKE, WA  
Comments:
I stand in support of # 46. Adopt "no fishing from floating device" on the upper stretch of the Hoh. Also implement Catch and Release rules for wild Steelhead. and Prohibit barbed hooks and the use of bait
WYMAN, KENNETH L  November 11, 2015
BREMERTON, WA  
Comments:
I oppose the proposal to prohibit fishing from a boat on the coastal oly pen rivers there is very limited bank fishing access to begin with I am disabled due to two hip replacement surgeries.fishing from my drift boat provides me the means to pursue the sport that I pay for by purchasing my yearly licences from this state.boats leave no footprint in spawning areas versus wading anglers disturbing the river bottom.until I see some type of scientific backing to ban the boats then Your proposal will not solve a thing except to take away my freedom to pursue a sport that I have cherished all my life.
IRWIN, TANNER M  November 11, 2015
OAKLAND, CA  
Comments:
Too many fishing techniques, not enough holding habitat for fish to escape the pressure onslaught.
RUSHTON, RICHARD   November 11, 2015
BEND, OR  
Comments:
I strongly support Rule #46 - please institute a no fishing from boat rule from Olympic National Park boundary downstream to the WDFW boat launch at Morgan’s Crossing in the upper Hoh River. This would allow some level of sanctuary for steelhead from angler pressure, which is needed to further enhance this valuable fishery.
BABCOCK, GABE F  November 11, 2015
CORVALLIS, OR  
Comments:
I am for this. Keeping us in the water seems fair. A boat still gives us better access to the river as a whole but requiring us to get out and fish from shore seems reasonable, maybe even responsible. It's certainly worth experimenting with... It can't hurt to enforce this and try it out. It wont ruin anyone's experience to require us to fish from the shore, and if it gives these wild anadromys' another chance to recover do it. Practicing a little restraint and a willingness to inconvenience ourselves wont kill us...
RICHARDSON, MATT   November 11, 2015
SAN FRANCISCO, CA  
Comments:
I like this rule and would like it to include no fishing from a boat rule from Olympic National Park boundary downstream to the WDFW boat launch at Morgan’s Crossing in the upper Hoh River. thank you.
HILEMAN, MATTHEW   November 11, 2015
BUCKSPORT , ME  
Comments:
Please institute a no fishing froma boat rule from Olympic National Park boundary downstream to the WDFW boat launch at Morgan’s Crossing in the upper Hoh River.
REVOYR, RICHARD A  November 11, 2015
MOUNT VERNON, WA  
Comments:
I support this recommendation which will still allow for fishing access and at the same time moderate the overall pressure on the fish, allowing more places for them to hold in safe places.
ATWOOD, APRIL   November 11, 2015
SEATTLE, WA  
Comments:
This will protect holding and spawning adult steelhead and salmon - I support this action.
JOHNSON, SHANNON   November 11, 2015
LINCOLN CITY, OR  
Comments:
please consider experimenting with a "no fishing from floating device" rule in the upper Hoh River.
ZWICKER, NICK   November 11, 2015
SAN FRANCISCO, CA  
Comments:
Please institute a no fishing from boat rule from Olympic National Park boundary downstream to the WDFW boat launch at Morgan’s Crossing in the upper Hoh River.
HIKES, MATTHEW   November 11, 2015
PORTLAND, OR  
Comments:
I support this rule, even in the event that harvest of wild fish is stopped (i.e. rule 48 is adopted). Wild fish that are headed to spawning grounds are in danger or mortality due to multiple catch/release events, which are much more likely to occur if every potential place of refuge is continually fished through by boat-bound anglers.
WASHINGTON, WILD SALMON CENTER   November 11, 2015
PORT ANGELES, WA  
Comments:
Wild Steelhead populations are in steady decline or barely holding steady in many rivers across the Coast. We support the proposed rule change of not fishing from floating devices from the boundary of the National Park to Morgan’s crossing on the Hoh River as a means to reduce fishing pressure and better protect spawning wild steelhead, on an experimental basis. At the same time, we suggest the Department provide additional resources to better enforce this rule and increase creel surveys during this trial period to examine catch rates both above and below Morgan’s crossing from banks versus floating devices.
KOTERBA, FRANK   November 11, 2015
BELLINGHAM, WA  
Comments:
This is a step I support to protect holding salmon and steelhead.
KOPF, MICHAEL A  November 11, 2015
VICTOR, ID  
Comments:
I think this rule should be very high on the list for changes to be made to save these fish from extinction . They don't stand a chance with 30 - 40 boats a day on any given stretch side drifting eggs or pulling pink plastic worms , and let's not forget those fly fisherman with there little bobbers . These fish literally have no where to hide .
MARTIN, JEFFREY   November 11, 2015
SEATTLE, WA  
Comments:
These fish need some areas of santuary in the river where they can hold, rest and spawn without being disturbed.
CRAMPTON, SUSAN   November 11, 2015
TWISP, WA  
Comments:
Better late than never/as that applies to WDFW Rule Change Recommendation # 46 to adopt "no fishing from floating device" rules on select streams/and as it applies to these comments of mine after just finding out about WDFW November 12 deadline. Thank you. Sincerely/ Susan Crampton
CANALAS, ROBERT A  November 11, 2015
ROSEVILLE, CA  
Comments:
These proposed regulation changes could be a milestone in wild steelhead recovery. Please, please adopt these rules and change the path for wild fish forever.
PRESCOTT, STANLEY W  November 11, 2015
COVINGTON, WA  
Comments:
Please do not implement this rule.
COLE, ALLYN   November 11, 2015
ELMA, WA  
Comments:
This would be a great action to implement! The amount of traffic the rivers listed have, this is one of the last "Wild" steelhead areas left in Washington. Almost all other rivers in Puget sound, upper Columbia tributaries, Snake river system. this would give the Steelhead a better chance to live prosper and fulfill there life cycle more than one time, to pass on there evolved genetics to the gravel for natural development. not killing them to use there DNA for a batch of eggs. Just this one action can save numerous watersheds from a failing population.
CRAWFORD, JAKE   November 11, 2015
ASHLAND, OR  
Comments:
I support the recommendation to prevent anglers from fishing from a floating device on the proposed streams outlined by the NCSAG.
HUGHES, JAMES   November 11, 2015
EVERETT, WA  
Comments:
Please implement "no fishing from floating device." Thanks for the consideration.
IRONS, GORDON   November 11, 2015
SEABECK, WA  
Comments:
As a lifelong fisherman and Quillayute River front property owner,(267 Green Rd., Forks), I enjoy fishing from a driftboat with my wife. The idea that prohibiting fishing from a boat will bring back the fish is just another elitist's idea to restrict river access. Some of the recommendations by the advisory group, such as restricting bait at times and barbless hooks will definitely help to decrease mortality, but this isn't one of them. I've seen bank fishermen play a fish for what seems like an unusually long time,only to drag it onto the beach, flopping and rolling, completely covered with sand, and then let it go. Also, I've seen boat fishermen net a fish, scales flying, and hold it up by the gill plate for lots of pictures, only to throw it back into the river. If a fisherman wants to handle the fish with care, it doesn't matter whether it's from a boat or not.
MARLAHAN, CHRIS   November 11, 2015
WASHOUGAL , WA  
Comments:
Fishing from a boat should be prohibited on North Coastal Streams. If we are to be serious about recovering our native wild fish stocks then this is one rule that must be implemented. Anglers can exit their boat and fish all they want from shore. Standing above fish on a boat and casting bait / lures / flies over them is a technique that works too well, potentially resulting in the handing of the same fish by several different angers in multiple boats in a short period of time. The increase in mortality this causes can be averted by leveling the playing field and making angers actually work for their fish, using steath and good angling techniques. It works well on Oregon's Deschutes River, it can work here as well.
ROIVANEN, CHRIS   November 11, 2015
BREMERTON, WA  
Comments:
There is no need to experiment with a no boats in the Upper Hoh. I am against this proposal.
BULLEY, CHARLES K  November 11, 2015
PUYALLUP, WA  
Comments:
Please end the current practice of fishing from a floating device on the Olympic Coast rivers. This long standing practice must end precisely because it is so effective at catching fish. Shortly after the beginning of the fishing season the guides know exactly where the fish will be found and they "do laps" through the most productive water with their clients catching and injuring the same wild steelhead over and over again. Catch and release fishing is associated with at least a 4% mortality per event and the repeated catching and handling of these wild fish is a major contributor to their rapidly falling numbers. Wild steelhead are in danger from overharvest, including catch and release practices which go far beyond what anyone would consider a sporting way to fish. No ethical justification exists to support fishing from a floating device the way it is currently being done on our Olympic Coast rivers. Please end this practice now.
CARTER, JEFF   November 11, 2015
YAKIMA, WA  
Comments:
I do not support adopting a no fishing from floating device rule!
JEFF, RITTER   November 11, 2015
HAVRE, MT  
Comments:
It's time to get the OP back on track. The explanation says it all for this proposal.
RITTER, JEFF   November 11, 2015
HAVRE, MT  
Comments:
It's time to get the OP back on track. The explanation says it all for this proposal.
MCMILLAN, WILLIAM J  November 11, 2015
CONCRETE, WA  
Comments:
The great majority of steelhead on the Olympic Peninsula rivers are caught by anglers in boats and rafts resulting in increasingly efficient angling methods and resulting lack of sanctuary areas where steelhead can hold without being caught. I ask that WDFW apply a no fishing from a floating craft rule for select North Coast streams, and particularly the upper Hoh River from the Olympic Park Boundary to Morgan's Crossing boat launch site.
FLORES, BENJIE R  November 11, 2015
PORT ANGELES, WA  
Comments:
If you don't let the sport fishermen fish from a floating device and the tribes are running their jet boats it will cause problems. It's only fair to allow sport fishermen to use boats and fish from them, since you will not be able to control the tribal members. The other concern that I have is that there is a lot of private property on a number of the coastal streams and access will be very limited if boats are removed.
PETERSON, TYLER J  November 11, 2015
EDMONDS, WA  
Comments:
Many of these streams have little or no public access. what access there is often requires bank fishermen to walk on reds or trample riparian vegetation to use. Drift boats are an extremely low impact tool that allow fishermen to access more of the river without violating property rights or damaging fragile ecosystems. A better idea would be to eliminate bait or to require single, barbless hooks.
THORSTED , ERIC   November 11, 2015
BAINBRIDGE ISLAND , WA  
Comments:
Please consider instituting a "no fishing from floating device" rule in the upper Hoh River.
MCKEEHEN, KATHLEEN E  November 11, 2015
INDIANOLA, WA  
Comments:
While I know there will be fishermen upset by any of these proposed restrictions, again I support efforts to restore the fishery, even if it limits what we can do; the fish are more important in the long run than our short-run pleasure in pursuing them.
LAVALLE, WILLIAM R  November 12, 2015
POULSBO, WA  
Comments:
Adopt "no fishing from floating device" rules on select streams.
WELLS, IAN S  November 12, 2015
MISHAWAKA, IN  
Comments:
As an avid swing fly fisherman and a drift boat user I value the use of my boat. I do agree with this because if we do not preserve the fishes homes then their numbers will continue to decline.
ISHII, PAUL   November 12, 2015
FEDERAL WAY, WA  
Comments:
I am not in favor. Hard for seniors and disabled to fish
GLOVER, BRYAN   November 12, 2015
ATLANTA, GA  
Comments:
I support the no fishing from a floating device rules on select North Coast streams.
ALLISON, KEITH P  November 12, 2015
BEAVER, WA  
Comments:
I do not support making the upper stretches of all north coast rivers open to wade angling only. This would create additional negative impact on spawning gravel/redds. There is an opportunity here to try this on a specific river and see what impact negative/positive it may have. I believe the Hoh would be an obvious choice because of the ease of access up to the park line for bank anglers.
HIDAY, COLIN F  November 12, 2015
SEQUIM, WA  
Comments:
I think pulling nets out is gonna help more. plant more hatchery fish. close wild fishing down tell numbers bounce back up. a lot of guides make there living fishing. these towns will shut down with out fishing especially forks wa. planting more hatchery fish will help local economy. fishing from boats or not wont change anything ive caught just as many from shore. I agree something needs to be done. Close upper stretches of rivers during spawning times. still nets do most damage.
NELSON, PAUL   November 12, 2015
TACOMA, WA  
Comments:
I strongly disagree with this proposal. It would severely restrict fishing on this coastal streams (especially nymph fishing) to far fewer areas and would add to the already significant congestion on these coastal rivers. Ultimately, many people would cease fishing on these streams. I know I would. And, anglers are some of the best supporters of stream health and wild steelhead. Moreover, anglers spend a lot of money angling and help to support local economies. Lastly, I am in favor of other proposals such as the use of barbless hooks and reducing handling of wild fish. All of my fishing is with barbless hooks and is catch and release.
CORDINGLEY, NEIL   November 12, 2015
GARIBALDI HIGHLANDS, BC  
Comments:
Float fishing can be removed
LARSON, ERIC R  November 12, 2015
PORT ANGELES, WA  
Comments:
Boat fisherman do yes have a better advantage but the river banks on the upper Hoh are so long that there are very few areas that wont be fished. This is also a terrible proposal because if a fisherman really wanted to he could walk from hwy 101 all the way up to the park boundry in the right water conditions. The Hoh already has selective gear rules throught the river system already so this wont change a thing. Netting has a huge impact on the wild steelhead runs, that is what needs to be discussed in this proposal.
KIRK, JOHN   November 12, 2015
BOZEMAN, MT  
Comments:
I have spent the last couple springs visiting the OP for a week or more. The majority of the time it has been very busy with anglers. From what I have seen in regards to fishing pressure, especially from anglers fishing from the boat, these fish don't get much of a break. With so much pressure, small fish returns and escapement, it seems only to make sense that we give the fish some safe haven from boat anglers. Please approve this rule change and limit areas where fishing can be done from a boat.
LIND, ALVIN A  November 12, 2015
LAKEWOOD, WA  
Comments:
I do not agree with this proposal as this would eliminate nymph and center pin fishing and concentrate more anglers in specific areas leading to overcrowding.
BEARDSLEE, CANDACE   November 12, 2015
DUVALL, WA  
Comments:
Please implement "no fishing from a floating device" rules on select Olympic Peninsula rivers to protect holding and spawning adult steelhead and salmon.
HARDER, JOHN R  November 12, 2015
IDAHO FALLS, ID  
Comments:
I support asking WDFW to experiment with a "no fishing from floating device" rule in the upper Hoh River. The vast majority of steelhead on the OP are caught by anglers in boats and the advent of rafts - both large and small - and improved fishing techniques means that there are very few places where steelhead cannot be caught by anglers. While anglers could not fish from a boat in this reach of the Hoh under the proposed rule, they could still use boats for transportation. Restrictions on boat fishing are likely to become increasingly necessary if angling pressure continues to mount and steelhead runs continue to decline. The short reach in the Upper Hoh provides an opportunity to experiment with the rule and see how anglers respond. Ask WDFW to support Rule #46 by specifically suggesting that they institute a no fishing from boat rule from Olympic National Park boundary downstream to the WDFW boat launch at Morgan’s Crossing in the upper Hoh River.
WALKER, DOUG   November 12, 2015
NAPA, CA  
Comments:
I support instituting a no fishing from boat rule from Olympic National Park boundary downstream to the WDFW boat launch at Morgan’s Crossing in the upper Hoh River. Thanks
LELAND, TROY D  November 12, 2015
SEATTLE, WA  
Comments:
watching boat after boat bobber dog down the river is difficult, as it does not allow any resting areas for the fish. i support the notion of eliminating fishing from a floating device to protect the fish we love to catch. troy
GREIST, STEVE   November 12, 2015
BAINBRIDGE ISLAND, WA  
Comments:
I support 3. Third, ask WDFW to experiment with a "no fishing from floating device" rule in the upper Hoh River.
MAHONY, JERRY   November 12, 2015
BAINBRIDGE ISLAND, WA  
Comments:
Yes, lets try this as the fish can use all the safe resting opportunities we can give them. This is a very popular section and it is heavily "pounded" by anglers from floating devises .
BROWN, LEE   November 12, 2015
REDMOND, WA  
Comments:
I strongly encourage WDFW to support Rule #46 by implementing a no fishing from boat rule from Olympic National Park boundary downstream to the WDFW boat launch at Morgan’s Crossing in the upper Hoh River. I believe this has the potential to provide great relief to our endangered wild steelhead.
FINNEGAN, PATRICK   November 12, 2015
GRANGEVILLE, ID  
Comments:
Please experiment with a "no fishing from floating device" rule on the Hoh River from the Olympic National Park boundary downstream to the WDFW boat launch at Morgan's Crossing. This will allow the winter steelhead to migrate through several reaches along this stretch with much greater survival capability.
WHITE, MICHAEL   November 12, 2015
BOZEMAN, MT  
Comments:
We must act now to protect salmon and steelhead from the constant harassment that ensues while angling from a boat. Angling from a boat allows the angler to easily position themselves on strategic holding water and spawning habitat. I strongly support this initiative. Please ban fishing from floating vessels.
KILCUP, ROB E  November 12, 2015
FOX ISLAND, WA  
Comments:
I support changing the upper Hoh to wade fishing only.
KILBY, PATRICK A  November 12, 2015
BAINBRIDGE ISLAND, WA  
Comments:
I like the direction this is going, but I don't think this proposal gets you closer to your target. I don't see how closing one section of a river will be measurable. I'd prefer to see you choose one or more rivers and restrict fishing from a boat for the entire river. Or restrict boat fishing to certain days of the week similar to Native netting allowances. I believe either of these are more measurable experiments. So I am not in support of this current test. But would be in support of one that will provide better data. Thank you, PK
ADAMSON, STEVE   November 12, 2015
BREMERTON, WA  
Comments:
Restrict use of boats for fishing. Oregon did this on the Deschutes, thereby creating somewhat of a fish sanctuary in some difficult to fish holes. Great idea!!!!!!!
VOJTA, COPI   November 12, 2015
BELLINGHAM, WA  
Comments:
Fully support, as should the WDFW consider the rule change.
BEAUCHAMP , SEAN   November 12, 2015
EVERETT, WA  
Comments:
I think it is worth trying on a few select stretches of Olympic peninsula waters to see how the crowds and the fish respond but I think it may be wiser to consider earlier timed closures particularly in the upper reaches of the sol duc, hoh, queets and bogachiel rivers to protect spawning fish from angler pressure. Maybe a study is required to set the framework for these closures in areas of high spawning activity to ensure maximum fishing opportunity while still protecting the spawning steelhead.
CARVER SR, RUSSELL L  November 12, 2015
LAKE TAPPS, WA  
Comments:
No . This is senseless. How will we be able to access these rivers we need more opportunity to harvest our fish not less ! The impact is minimal at best .
MILLS, JOSH M  November 12, 2015
SPOKANE, WA  
Comments:
Solid move, make it happen
BURCK, EVAN   November 12, 2015
DUVALL, WA  
Comments:
I would like to see such a rule implemented later in the run (mid Feb) onward in the upper floatable sections of these rivers. From my experience, there is a high encounter with spawning/nesting fish during this time period in these areas.
LEVIN, BRYCE A  November 12, 2015
SEATTLE, WA  
Comments:
I support this proposal. We must take more steps to decrease the amount of fish that are handled for C&R. Also, strategically eliminating boat angling in areas known to have a high density of spawning areas is a must.
SELF, MERLIN   November 12, 2015
POULSBO, WA  
Comments:
I agree with the statement of supporting refuge areas. I support designating regions for boat fishing and others for boat transport/bank fishing only. The areas need to be defined by wdfw.
BERTO, NICHOLAS J  November 12, 2015
MONROE, WA  
Comments:
I do not agree with this proposal. Fishing is limited from the bank and much of the property along the river is private. This regulation is also hard to enforce and monitor, creating to many issues for our enforcement officers. Fishing from a boat is safe and makes for better fishing opportunities for all and also is easier on fish we intend to release (native steelhead) so we don't have to fight them until they are dead.
CORBETT, PETER   November 12, 2015
NORTH BEND, WA  
Comments:
Our fish need all the help they can get! Let's make no fishing out of a floating device mandatory on all steelhead rivers in the state! Thank you
DONOHUE, CODY T  November 12, 2015
FEDERAL WAY, WA  
Comments:
I think limiting the use of boats is sound in two ways. Limits access so as to provides refuge where fish grow and reds are not damaged or damage is limited in these areas.
CARROLL, SHANNON   November 12, 2015
GIRDWOOD, AK  
Comments:
As a former fishing guide in Washington State, and now as a frequent "steelhead tourist," I strongly support this measure. Restricting effort to wade fishing only would provide for higher quality angling opportunities for all fishermen, and provide for low-cost, immediate conservation benefits for returning salmon and steelhead. Similar measures in Oregon have demonstrated the conservation benefits of the proposed rule, and have also proven that fishing-dependent tourism will not suffer (and will likely increase).
OLSON, KRIS   November 12, 2015
SALT LAKE CITY, UT  
Comments:
I support this proposition to reduce harrasment of holding and spawning wild fish.
MEYER, DAVE   November 12, 2015
VANCOUVER, WA  
Comments:
I do not support. This only puts more pressure in select areas reducing fish escapement and placing wild fish in a location where they could be caught more than once in a short period of time.
WALKER, ALAN   November 12, 2015
IDAHO FALLS, ID  
Comments:
I support fishing-from-boat restrictions in order to reduce increasing angling pressure on fish populations!
VALENTA, RICHARD   November 12, 2015
EDGEWOOD , WA  
Comments:
As the years go on, the Olympic Peninsula has become more pressured. Essentially, our entire wild steelhead runs are being caught and released. Mortality rate is higher than ever and their numbers are steadily declining. As the Peninsula is one of our most prized possessions as Washingtonians and as anglers, we must do what we can to protect it. No one likes more rules and regulations but what is and has been happening is no longer sufficient in saving what we hold so dear. The time for change is now, not a few years down the road when there will nothing left to save. I believe we should make these small sacrifices and changes in hoping that we can stop looking at past abundances and start looking forward to a bright future. I want to catch fish as much as the next angler but I am willing to do what must be done. This is not going to fix everything we done to these rivers but we have to start somewhere. I support this rule change.
JOHNSON, MICHAEL N  November 12, 2015
SEATTLE, WA  
Comments:
Getting out of the boat to fish raises the challenge for fishermen and enables a better fishery overall. Again, this rule is enact on the Deschutes in Central OR and the results have been good. It's not that big of a headache...you just gotta find your favorite holes and learn how to row that boat!
KASTING, JUSTIN   November 12, 2015
SEATTLE, WA  
Comments:
Please institute a no fishing from boat rule from Olympic National Park boundary downstream to the WDFW boat launch at Morgan's Crossing in the upper Hoh River. This will dramatically reduce the number of fished hooked but should also dramatically increase the amount of wild steelhead DNA in our rivers. These fish are fighting a losing battle. Let's help them out a bit so future steelheaders have the opportunity to share in this important resource
RILEY, JACK   November 12, 2015
SAMMAMISH, WA  
Comments:
This is an extremely important proposal. The pressure on the fish on these rivers is increasing as more people are floating the rivers. To prohibit fishing from the boats gives the fish a much greater habitat to expand in number and reduces the stress on them. I agree with this proposal.
EMBERTSON, LEIF   November 12, 2015
BELLINGHAM, WA  
Comments:
I support this proposal.
PAULL, BENJAMIN   November 12, 2015
SEATTLE, WA  
Comments:
Please adopt this rule. At least for a river like the Hoh which is eminently fishable from the shore. I have seen and heard first hand the effect that fishing from a floating device has- the fish counts people rack up are frankly obscene. No one needs to catch 20 or more steelhead in a day. No one. Recreational fishing has a huge impact- I can't imagine how many fish are hooked, landed and handled who knows how on the Sol Duc and Hoh when the fish are in. It needs to change. Thank you, Ben Paull
EDWARDS, TROY   November 12, 2015
SEATTLE, WA  
Comments:
Restrictions on boat fishing are likely to become increasingly necessary if angling pressure continues to mount and steelhead runs continue to decline. The short reach in the Upper Hoh provides an opportunity to experiment with the rule and see how anglers respond. I am in support of a float fishing ban within the Olympic National Park boundary downstream to the WDFW boat launch at Morgan's Crossing in the upper Hoh River. Let's try all forms of rules to help improve Steelhead recovery.
NELLE, STEVE M  November 12, 2015
FOLSOM, CA  
Comments:
No way do i agree with this. If we implement barbless hooks, catch and release, and no bait these will have a major impact on restoring and preserving the returns of wild steelhead.
MCMILLAN, JOHN   November 12, 2015
PORT ANGELES, WA  
Comments:
I would like to support the no fishing from boat rule for the Upper Hoh River (above Willoughby) and the Upper Sol Duc River (above salmon hatchery) for the entire winter steelhead season. However, in spirit of compromise, because the rule is contentious, I limit my support to the North Coast Advisory Sport proposal, which would implement no fishing from a floating device in the upper Hoh from the Olympic National Park downstream to the WDFW boat launch at Morgans Crossing. The same rule exists in other world-class steelhead fisheries, such as the Deschutes River in Oregon and the Skeena and Dean Rivers in British Columbia. The rule was enacted in those places to improve sharing of the resource and to reduce effectiveness. The rule makes sense here because the vast majority of steelhead on the OP rivers are caught by anglers in boats and the advent of rafts – both large and small – and improved fishing techniques means that there are very few places where steelhead have sanctuary.
SENYOHL, AL   November 12, 2015
KIRKLAND, WA  
Comments:
This regulation proposal would limit the oppertunity of the majority of Steelhead fishers on the Hoh River above Allen Bar to fish from a moving boat. Why would the WDFW want to limit oppertunity for those who use traditional boat fishing methods, casting & Drifting fishing,side drifting,fishing with floats & jigs, fly fishing with indicators or pulling plugs from a boat? There are also many anglers who fish that have disabulities or are no longer unable to navigate river banks on stand waist deep in the river. This rule proposal is bad business for the WDFW to consider adopting! This rule proposal appears to be supported by 1 user group (fly fishers)in an attempt to inhanse their fly fishing oppertunity from the bank by limiting oppertunity for vast majority of fishers who use other fishing methods & enjoy fishing from boats(including the guides)! Do not limit oppertunity to inhanse 1 user group. Al Senyohl, Pres. Steelhead Trout Club of WA, Member Methow Velley Fly Fishers
UNLIMITED, TROUT   November 12, 2015
SEATTLE, WA  
Comments:
We support the experimental rule of “no fishing from floating device” rule in the upper Hoh River. The same rule exists in other world-class steelhead fisheries, such as the Deschutes River in Oregon and the Skeena and Dean Rivers in British Columbia. The rule was enacted in those places to improve sharing of the resource and to reduce effectiveness. The rule makes sense here because the vast majority of steelhead on the NOP are caught by anglers in boats (Figure 4 and 5) and the advent of rafts – both large and small – and improved fishing techniques means that there are very few places where steelhead cannot be caught by anglers. While anglers could not fish from a boat in this reach of the Hoh under the proposed rule, they could still use boats for transportation. Restrictions on boat fishing are likely to become increasingly necessary if angling pressure continues to mount and steelhead runs continue to decline. The short reach in the Upper Hoh provides an opportunity to experime
BOBBITT, BRADLEY H  November 12, 2015
OLYMPIA, WA  
Comments:
I would like to express my support for proposed rule #46. I believe it will benefit fish and reduce conflicts between anglers that employ different tactics. I am curious if this rule would apply to rivers within Olympic National Park (could a staff person please follow up with me on this matter). If so, I would like to see the Queets River or at least a section of it (say above Hartzel boat launch or Matheny Creek) added to this list. If not, is there a way for the state to coordinate with the National Park Service on fish management strategies?
BEVIS, CARL   November 12, 2015
SEATTLE, WA  
Comments:
I agree that no fishing from a boat or other floating device would enhance the ability of protecting holding and spawning adult Salmon and Steelhead. Such a rule change would I believe enhance the foot based fishing experience of the typical angler.
HUDSON, TROY V  November 12, 2015
FORT PLAIN, NY  
Comments:
I would like to comment on the debate of whether or not floating devices should be used to fish for steelhead or trout on select streams in the Olympic Peninsula. It is important that we should not allow floatation devices in all areas of the peninsula or the surrounding streams and watersheds so the steelhead and trout have places where they cannot be caught or put under fishing pressure. Though fishing is a favorite sport of mine I know that fish, especially spawning trout and steelhead, need areas in their waters where they cannot be pressured by anglers. There should be restrictions on floatation devices in areas of each active steelhead and trout stream in the Olympic Peninsula to decrease fishing pressure and increase spawning success.
WILLIAMS, NANCY L  November 12, 2015
SEATTLE, WA  
Comments:
I support this rule change.
ZAVADLOV, MIKE E  November 12, 2015
FORKS, WA  
Comments:
The only one I agree with is the one on the Hoh Morgan's up March one to April 15. Use this as a test area to truly see if does help reduce encounter!!
CONATY , ROB   November 12, 2015
BAYFIELD , CO  
Comments:
Take a page from the Deschutes except no jets is the best
JULIAN, MARK   November 12, 2015
BAINBRIDGE ISLAND, WA  
Comments:
I would be in favor of no fishing from boats on any coastal streams. The fish in all the waters are getting hammered so hard from multiple boats a day that it's a shame. Using boats to access spots and then fishing from the beach leaves place where the fish can hole up and rest and not constantly be pressured. I would be all for this rule. Guides can still guide and everyone can still fish.
NEBEKER, TRAVIS J  November 12, 2015
RIDGEFIELD, WA  
Comments:
This measure will greatly increase angling opportunity for the ever growing base of fly anglers. As such angling ethics will improve in this river segment
PAULL, NATHANIEL B  November 12, 2015
GIG HARBOR, WA  
Comments:
I strongly support the implementation of "no fishing from a floating device" rules on select North Coast streams. Steelhead need refuges from predation. This rule should be implemented.
LUSIS, ARNIE   November 12, 2015
KINGSTON , WA  
Comments:
I Strongly support this rule. There are lot of fishermen and many have the latest in technology. We have also closed so many opportunities to fish for Steelhead on North Sound Streams, resulting in increasing pressure on the few fisheries remaining open. In view if the continued decline in numbers of North Coast steelhead, and the exceptionally high catch rates relative to current escapement of wild and hatchery steelhead, it only makes sense to use this as a proof of concept in limiting the impact of anglers to try to improve survivability of current stocks. BTW, I HAVE a drift boat, and am more than happy to support this if it helps improve opportunities for future generations.
HODDER, CHARLIE   November 12, 2015
SNOHOMISH , WA  
Comments:
I support no fishing from a floating device to help protect spawning fish. Reduce catch rates.
PETERSON, AARON   November 12, 2015
BELLINGHAM, WA  
Comments:
No
JOHNSON, KELTEN J  November 12, 2015
SEATTLE, WA  
Comments:
Please adopt "no fishing from floating device" rules on the above select streams
CROSS, STEFANIE   November 12, 2015
RIDGEFIELD, WA  
Comments:
I support this rule change for the benefit of wild fish
HOFLIN, CHAD   November 12, 2015
KENT, WA  
Comments:
Many portions of these rivers are unfishable from shore. This will congest every exposed bank with multiple fisherman. Trash that would be confined to boats will now be spread across the shoreline. Angler disputes will rise. Angler fishing experience will greatly decrease. I may not even fish there anymore. Communities that depend on money from fisherman influx will go away.
BOWEN, JAMES R  November 12, 2015
ESCALON, CA  
Comments:
I'm in favor of this regulation change because the Hoh River is one of the few peninsula rivers with generous public access for walk and wade anglers. Using boats/rafts, floating devices for travel only and not for fishing should decrease hooking mortality and improve quality of fishing experience.
WOOD, DAVID   November 12, 2015
QUINCY, CA  
Comments:
I have fished for steelhead on the Olympic Peninsula and hope to do so again. I am an avid steelhead and trout fisherman, and own several boats (raft, kayaks, canoe, inflatable kayak) that I sometimes use for fishing. However, I support a rule of no fishing from boats for the upper Hoh River, from the Olympic National Park boundary downstream to the Morgan's Crossing boat launch. This will give the fish a break and help to sustain the fishery.
CARNAGHI, WILL   November 12, 2015
SEATTLE, WA  
Comments:
Fishing from a floating device is an extremely effective way to hook anadromous fish. One can target any pocket of water in the river with a boat thus it leaves no runs un-molestd by fisherman. The fish have nowhere to rest on their journey and the likelihood of hooking these steelhead and salmon increases dramatically. Bank bound fisherman, on the other hand, have to rely more on their own skills to target their fish and less on a guide, who can easily breeze any paying client right onto the best holding water of a limited and precious resource.
PAULL, BRENDA   November 12, 2015
MERCER ISLAND, WA  
Comments:
I support this.
BOYLE, MARK   November 12, 2015
MUKILTEO, WA  
Comments:
I am against this proposal. Its not a necessary rule. Eliminates the boat fisherman in favor of the elitist fly-fisherman on the bank. A fish can be netted and released from the net and never brought onboard the boat unharmed.
HARRIS, LISA I  November 12, 2015
VANCOUVER, WA  
Comments:
Regarding rule #46: you are doing the river(s), the steelhead and the land owners a disservice by not allowing fishing from a floating device. I assume that means a drift boat. You will put more fishermen on the banks of those rivers, trampling vegetation which degrades the steelhead (and other wildlife) habitat. You'll have people trying to get to the river in New areas and areas they should not be in/on; trespassing. As well, the ones that take wild fish now are the same that disrespect in general and leave all kinds of sh** behind on the bank when they leave the area. I won't even start on the financial impact to these areas if you allow this. No. On 46!

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